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OT: MLB Thread - Part XVI: Come On. Do Something.

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What are the feelings on Ervin Santana as an alternative option to paying the price for Gray and Darvish.

Also Straily's name as now appeared. Has team control for 3 years so he would require a good offer.
 
Sonny Gray is gonna get lit up at Yankee Stadium. His lack of a dominant breaking pitch leaves me concerned.
 
Geoff Gorden said:
Based on what?

His GB rates have been fantastic this year with out the dominant curveball. Why would that change?
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That's because of his sinker. He had a dominant curveball a few years ago, but is using it a lot less.

I just don't see him as anything more than average. At that point, I'd rather hold onto our prospects.
 


So they take the Rays 30th ranked prospect.



Yankees prob offered something better, but the Mets took the lesser offer because of 'rivalry' reasons.

Duda ain't even better than LoMo or Dickerson anyways...
 
Trade makes no sense for the Rays.
They have four lefties already (Dickerson Morrison Smith Miller) and a 5th who just started a rehab assigned (Kiermaier)

The only one of those 5 he's better than is probably Smith but that then forces Dickerson into the OF and he's a terrible fielder and Smith is also actually pretty good.
 
DrRecchi said:
That's because of his sinker. He had a dominant curveball a few years ago, but is using it a lot less.

I just don't see him as anything more than average. At that point, I'd rather hold onto our prospects.
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I'm totally aware.

His dominant sinker isn't going to go away just because hes moving to the AL East. I bet he'd start throwing his curve more if he ends up in NY. Rothchild has a hard on for them.

The only real concern is health with him and its a big one. I don't advise getting stupid with him either (Florial would be stupid) but for Mateo+ a few others, it's a decent gamble.
 
We need relievers. I'll take it. Creates a space for Smith for the next few months to up his trade value, and then we trade him in the offseason, re-sign Duda.
 
Smith has more value than Duda probably, but definitely not tons. What team is making a deal for Dom Smith with pieces the Mets would want at the deadline, for what reason, and why?

I expected Granderson to go for a reliever, but I guess Duda makes sense too. Duda in the AL will be a steady and strong producer, and probably healthier. Probably an underwhelming return, but I like the idea of getting some BP arms (with the college arms they drafted in the late rounds as well) to try and have a top 15 MLB bullpen next year. Reed should get a position prospect.
 
BlueshirtBlitz said:
Smith has more value than Duda probably, but definitely not tons. What team is making a deal for Dom Smith with pieces the Mets would want at the deadline, for what reason, and why?

I expected Granderson to go for a reliever, but I guess Duda makes sense too. Duda in the AL will be a steady and strong producer, and probably healthier. Probably an underwhelming return, but I like the idea of getting some BP arms (with the college arms they drafted in the late rounds as well) to try and have a top 15 MLB bullpen next year. Reed should get a position prospect.
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Smith is a top 50 prospect on most lists.

He has value, lets not kid ourselves.
 
The fact the Rays have probably no intention and no ability to re sign Duda probably plays into the lousy return as well. I think if you deal him to a team with a massive hole at 1B which has ability to sign bigger UFAs the return is better
 
BlueshirtBlitz said:
Smith has more value than Duda probably, but definitely not tons. What team is making a deal for Dom Smith with pieces the Mets would want at the deadline, for what reason, and why?

I expected Granderson to go for a reliever, but I guess Duda makes sense too. Duda in the AL will be a steady and strong producer, and probably healthier. Probably an underwhelming return, but I like the idea of getting some BP arms (with the college arms they drafted in the late rounds as well) to try and have a top 15 MLB bullpen next year. Reed should get a position prospect.
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Holding out hope they get almora for a reed, granderson . Rivera package
 
Well, prospect rankings aside, Smith has a 0.96 WHIP in 124.2 MiLB innings. Also only 1 HR allowed through that span. Short reliever with a mid 90s fastball and flashes of an above average curveball sounds promising to me. If everything goes right we could be looking at a late inning guy in the future.
 
BlueshirtBlitz said:
Smith has more value than Duda probably, but definitely not tons. What team is making a deal for Dom Smith with pieces the Mets would want at the deadline, for what reason, and why?

I expected Granderson to go for a reliever, but I guess Duda makes sense too. Duda in the AL will be a steady and strong producer, and probably healthier. Probably an underwhelming return, but I like the idea of getting some BP arms (with the college arms they drafted in the late rounds as well) to try and have a top 15 MLB bullpen next year. Reed should get a position prospect.
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If Smith goes it's this winter, not now. Sandy is in a tough spot now though because if he or the organization's staff don't think Smith is a true ML caliber hitter and they want to hide him in AAA so he isn't exposed it's sort of transparent to other GMs what's going on and if he calls me in December and we're talking trades my first question is okay, but why was he never brought up when you guys finished 70-92 and were out of it by August 1? What are you hiding? Sandy did a good job last year doing that with Dilson Herrera but it wasn't totally obvious that's what was being done.
 
Side note: GKR have mentioned this throughout the season, but Duda is 7th all time in HR for the Mets. Trailed Beltran by 24 HRs for 6th. Thanks for 7 good seasons, Lucas.
 
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