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OT: MLB Discussion Thread Part XXVII: M*A*S*H Edition

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East Coast Bias said:
This isn’t all his fault. But he’s a really bad manager.
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As Buster said in his video, I don't think he can be blamed. I would put it more on their GM who made a comedy of errors this offseason.

Sadly you can't fire the GM 45 games into his contract, so I'm not sure where the Mets go from here.
 
Cassano said:
As Buster said in his video, I don't think he can be blamed. I would put it more on their GM who made a comedy of errors this offseason.

Sadly you can't fire the GM 45 games into his contract, so I'm not sure where the Mets go from here.
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Yeah the GM and Manager have some of the blame. Ultimately it’s ownership. It always has been and always will be.

They’re awful owners. I’m a life long Mets fan, but at 36, its getting old. They make moves to sell tickets and be relevant. That’s it.
 
RGY said:
No idea why he would open this game. Let him continue to build up his confidence in the right spots. Chance Adams should have been the option even if he failed he still was the better option.

Still strongly believe Boone does not have any feel for his pitching staff and has gotten incredibly lucky with a lot of his decisions with who he has brought in at various times in different situations these last few weeks.
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I would've started Adams but no issues with how Boone handed today. We out-Rayed the Rays.
 
Cassano said:
Yep, trade made zero sense when it was announced.

Is it worth giving those pieces for a reliever when Craig Kimbrel, one of the best relievers of this generation, is still out on the FA market? Diaz is good, but he's only been elite for one season. The trade hurts more because Cano has negative value now as opposed to the ~5 WAR he was the past 5 years. On the other hand, that can't be too surprising with his age, so it was a very bad gamble to take even without hindsight. He even had knee surgery this offseason performed by the Mets.
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Cano doesn’t project to have negative value going forward
Diaz hasn’t been elite for just one season
And there’s a massive difference between Diaz at his contract and Kimbrel with his contract demands that no team in the league has decided to meet.

45 games also tells you very little about whatever this team is actually good bad or somewhere in between.

And as I posted just last week the history of position players ranked +/- 5 from where Kelenic did to enter this season (from like 2009 to 2013 or whatever I looked at) is not very good at all. It’s a bunch of meh, some decent players, Joc Pederson, and busts.

Firing Callaway won’t make a difference. Managers have very little effect. The reason teams often seem to improve after firing a manager is just because in order to get the manager fired you basically need a team expected to be good that underperforms so the when you switch to the new guy and normal regression occurs it looks like they got better.
 
Cano’s contract is 5 years $120m from ages 36-40. For a guy who missed half the last season for PEDs and whose next time caught is a season long ban.

There were much better ways, with lower risk, to spend that money. It was a deal to splash the papers and drum up interest.
 
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Cano is on pace for 0.4 fWAR making 24 mill a year. 4 more years left after this season. Good luck with that one Mets.
 
darko said:
Need odc to come back and declare them legit again.
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Lmao.

They really should be better than they are. Alonso, Conforto, Nimmo and McNeil is a nice group of players. Rosario most likely profiles to be league average ish long term, but that isn't the worst thing in the world.

Im surprised with how poor their rotation has been though. Wheeler coming back to earth was a lock, but Syndergaard and DeGrom have underperformed.
 
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ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Lmao.

They really should be better than they are. Alonso, Conforto, Nimmo and McNeil is a nice group of players. Rosario most likely profiles to be league average ish long term, but that isn't the worst thing in the world.

Im surprised with how poor their rotation has been though. Wheeler coming back to earth was a lock, but Syndergaard and DeGrom has underperformed.
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They absolutely should be better than they are. Mets are probably somewhere in the middle of where they are now and where they were at the start of the season.

Love those mid-April baseball hot takes.
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Lmao.

They really should be better than they are. Alonso, Conforto, Nimmo and McNeil is a nice group of players. Rosario most likely profiles to be league average ish long term, but that isn't the worst thing in the world.

Im surprised with how poor their rotation has been though. Wheeler coming back to earth was a lock, but Syndergaard and DeGrom have underperformed.
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I figured deGrom would come back to earth but not this bad. I had him pegged as probably low 3s ERA this year. Syndergaard simply isn’t that good. Ron Darling had a good writeup last year as to why. He said Syndergaard doesn’t hide the ball well so hitters can really pick up his fastball which likely means he will always be about an equal IP/H pitcher. You’re not gonna see him go 225 IP and give up 150 hits for example. He’s still likely to be a solid pitcher but he’s not a 1 and he may not be a true 2 on some teams. Wheeler will get stupid money from someone unless he just implodes this year. If he does that he will likely have to take a short term show me contract. Conforto reminds me of a rich man’s Cliff Floyd in his prime. He’s very good but he’s gonna have 30-40 games each year where he massively slumps which will result in him never having a true MVP caliber year. Nimmo I have no concerns. He's still on pace for 90-100 walks. He’s gonna be good for 260-280/15-20/50-70 every year. Rosario I’m thinking eventually projects to a high 700s/low 800s OPS guy. Pretty good for a shortstop. He won’t ever walk more than 50-60 times in a season. Alonso it’s too early to know. He can’t really handle pitches up in the zone and this may or may not be a problem long term. In general a righty who is vulnerable up early in his career isn’t in as much trouble to being adjusted to as a lefty is. The bigger issue is it tends to lead to a shorter career as once the bat slows down after age 30 low ball hitters decline much faster. High ball guys like Tino Martinez survive longer into their 30s when the bat speed slows. Jeff McNeil seems legit at this point. He also walks enough and hits enough doubles that despite the fact he won’t more than 5-8 homers he can still probably OPS low 900s in a good year
 
darko said:
Cano is on pace for 0.4 fWAR making 24 mill a year. 4 more years left after this season. Good luck with that one Mets.
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“On pace” is entirely meaningless.

His true pace is current stats + his projected stats the rest of the year. Not his current stats *162/games played. That’s called nonsense.
 
VanWegenen accepted Francesca’s invitation to go on today. Love him or hate him you have to give him credit for agreeing to go on. I’m sure many other GMs in this situation wouldn’t. Especially after the crap Francesca gave him back in November or December
 
East Coast Bias said:
As of last night all signs pointed to him not being fired. At least that's the consensus among the beat writers.
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I have to think in their minds this homestand has to be 4-3 or better. If it isn’t I can’t see him not being fired. Buster Olney sort of hinted he believes he’s done and that they’re maybe discussing a replacement. That would indicate it won’t be Riggleman. The Blue Jackets did this two years ago when they hired Tortorella. Evidently everyone but the media/players/whoever their current coach was knew for days that Tortorella was coming on and the current guy was done but they completed the search while he was still employed
 
How is it Mickey's fault that Ramos, Cano, Nimmo aren't hitting, that Rosario can't field a ground ball, and that Wheeler/Syndergaard/deGrom are having significantly worse years?
 
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Cassano said:
Rosenthal: The dysfunctional Mets, who are toxic from the...
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Reads like a total narrative made to describe how they have performed so far rather than explaining anything.

This in particular "Why isn’t Tomas Nido catching Jacob deGrom when the ace’s ERA is 0.43 with him and 5.33 with Wilson Ramos over a similar number of innings? " is one of the dumbest thing I've read. This is a meaningless statistic with zero predictive value. Starting Nido of Ramos would make them less likely to win a game. Nido is projected as one of the worst hitters in the league (Oh, and his framing numbers this year are 7th worst among catcher who have caught 500 pitches).

And this "When Juan Lagares is not in center field, the team is below-average at all four up-the-middle positions — an inexcusable outcome for a team built around its starting pitching." They are built around strikeout quality starting pitcher which decreases the importance of defense.
 


Blevins breaking his arm falling down. Elsbury getting hurting his foot while rehabbing his hip. Now this. Craziest injuries happen to baseball players.
 
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