OT: MLB Discussion Thread: Part XXIV

[sbjnyc]

IDK, man. The injury thing is too big to look past, for me. He has averaged 73 games since his first full year. He can't even be counted on for half a season. His arm is terrible. The last time he posted a wRC+ over 100 was 2015. I'm not really sure what anyone would expect from him at this point. And given he's now, astonishingly, 30 years old, I wouldn't expect anything to get better.

d'Arnaud has never played 200 games in consecutive seasons. That streak will continue even if he plays every game this season.

 

[Larrybiv]

IDK, man. The injury thing is too big to look past, for me. He has averaged 73 games since his first full year. He can't even be counted on for half a season. His arm is terrible. The last time he posted a wRC+ over 100 was 2015. I'm not really sure what anyone would expect from him at this point. And given he's now, astonishingly, 30 years old, I wouldn't expect anything to get better.

Wow, 30 kind of blows my mind......would have guessed 26 or so, but yeah.......cant "expect" him to be healthy at 30, when he couldnt even stay on the field prior to. Anyway, who knows, really? Catching is tough, really tough......and I also believe he would hit with decent power, decent ribby's and average not so much......but, lets face it, he will never be a Jerry Grote.
Point i am really trying to get at here......is I would rather take my chances on him staying healthy than giving up Noah for Realmuto and whatever else comes with. MUTO could get injured the same and then where will we be? Noah is primed for an outstanding season, somewhat similar to deGrom. Book it.

 

[sbjnyc]

Noah is pimed for an outstanding season, somewhat similar to deGrom. Book it.

Only if he cuts his hair.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Noah is pimed for an outstanding season for the Yankees, somewhat similar to deGrom. Book it.

Truth.

 

[Bob Richards]

I like d'Arnaud but I have 0 expectations anymore.

He is constantly injured. CONSTANTLY. And when he does play he isn't particularly good.

Caught lightning in a bottle during that stretch run of 2015 where he was awesome but those are memories at this point.

 

[darko]

I’m surprised at the hype over Gimenez. Doesn’t the guy have like one homerun in hundreds of minor league ABs? I understand shortstop isn’t a power position but if the guy is sinply just very good defensively and is going to OPS 650 then you pretty much have to keep Rosario who has shown he may develop power

He had 6 last season and more than held his own as a 19 year old in High A and AA. His game is based around his plus bat speed and excellent plate discipline.

 

[Larrybiv]

Truth.

I didnt say YANKEES! Who put that in there? In fact, he had better not get traded (3 way trade or otherwise) to the Yankees. I am tired of losing quality pitchers to them......Cone, Gooden and maybe now Noah? Can't have it. I dont care WHO they get back. Dont want Realmuto, but i have to admit that Andujar kid excites me as Frazier sucks.

 

[Machinehead]

*Complains about Yankees*

*Watches Rangers*

"Yeah, you just keep doing your thing, Brian."

 

[Vitto79]

So Grandal and Pollock?

Rosario
Pollock
Cano
Cespedes
Conforto
Grandal
Frazier
McNeil ....Alonso
Nimmo / Lagares
Plawecki / Darnaud

 

[darko]

Grandal will cost you a draft pick. Ramos won't.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Where is that one dude who thinks the luxury tax is this huge deal?

 

[sbjnyc]

Where is that one dude who thinks the luxury tax is this huge deal?

Wasn't me but I think you're missing the fact that the tax gets larger each time you exceed the threshold (in consecutive yeas). It's 22.5% the 1st time, then 30%, 40% and 50%. The Sox exceeded the threshhold by ~ $50 million and unless they shed salary the tax will go up the following years. If the Yanks are at the threshold and sign 2 $25 million players for 5 years to get the same overage, the total tax would be (I think) $100 million on the $250 million total (40%). That's like signing those players to $35 million contracts. So $12 million might not sound like much to you but the multi-year escalation is I'm sure what Cashman is concerned about (as well as having to pay Judge and Severino). Signing 2 $300 million contracts (30X10) would put the Yanks in uncharted waters since the CBA will expire long before those contracts and the new CBA could be even more punitive or could provide relief.

Also, your draft position drops.

 

[Cassano]

 

[Machinehead]

I can't see the Yankees being seriously in on Realmuto.

This is the team that said this winter "Andujar is our third baseman" and I'm supposed to believe they would move Gary??

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think they’re only in on him to move him somewhere else.

 

[Cassano]

I don't think Yankees/Mets can match the realistic pieces the Braves will be willing to give up.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Where is that one dude who thinks the luxury tax is this huge deal?

Sorry @True Blue but I gotta call you on this one.

If that's all it costs then why should anyone care about the luxury tax?

 

[East Coast Bias]

Finally out on those ridiculous Realmuto rumors. Thank f***.

 

[nyr2k2]

Finally out on those ridiculous Realmuto rumors. Thank ****.

I preferred Grandal as a player but this is good as we get to keep our second pick.

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[Ghost of jas]

Good...no overpaying for Realmuto.

 

[Cassano]

That's a good deal. I would think they are done for the most part this offseason? Already signed Familia as well.

 

[Cassano]

Yankees rumored to be after Tulowitzki.

About 10 years too late sadly.

 

[Bob Richards]

Finally out on those ridiculous Realmuto rumors. Thank ****.

I am very content with this

 

[Ghost of jas]

That's a good deal. I would think they are done for the most part this offseason? Already signed Familia as well.

They really like Pollock and this deal makes it easier to fit him in. They also want a leftyy in the bullpen, and I've rumors about a return of Ollie Perez.