OT: MLB Discussion Thread: Part XXIII

[BroadwayBlues]

I'd prefer Bumgarner over Kluber. That postseason track record is unmatched.

Yep. Now that's guy I don't mind trading Andujar for.

Have the Giants made him available?

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

I like it. Said a couple weeks ago, I rather trade for Paxton instead of giving Corbin number 1 starter money. I think this move avoids that.

I'm concerned that Andujar will be traded for 33 y/o Kluber.

I think Corbin is still in play. They need another starter.

They could still trade for Kluber, but at this point, they'd probably want Andujar and Florial probably

 

[Irishguy42]

Paxton is an ace. No doubt about it.

Just a question of staying healthy.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

I think Corbin is still in play. They need another starter.

They could still trade for Kluber, but at this point, they'd probably want Andujar and Florial probably

I think they get the other starter via trade. If I'm Cashman, I shop Andujar/Florial package and see who bites.

I believe the Yankees are signing Machado for third.

 

[17futurecap]

This was a very good read on Paxton a few weeks ago, for people wanting to read up on what he brings, injury history etc...

Scouting the Trade Market: James Paxton - River Avenue Blues

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

YES boys

Now get me more starters

 

[Irishguy42]

Imagine...all four.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Paxton is an ace. No doubt about it.

Just a question of staying healthy.

I don't know. None of his numbers pop out at you as ace material. I like him, but if I was trading Sheffield, I'd rather have traded him for Kluber or Bumgarner or Syndergaard.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

I don't know. None of his numbers pop out at you as ace material. I like him, but if I was trading Sheffield, I'd rather have traded him for Kluber or Bumgarner or Syndergaard.

You're getting those pitchers for Sheffield led package.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

I don't know. None of his numbers pop out at you as ace material. I like him, but if I was trading Sheffield, I'd rather have traded him for Kluber or Bumgarner or Syndergaard.

Bumgarner isn't available. Mets would never trade DeGrom or Syndergaard short of maybe an overpayment, and who knows what Cleveland wanted for Kluber.

Paxton is a borderline ace. It WAS a good trade.

 

[One Winged Angel]

You're getting those pitchers for Sheffield led package.

Never said the words "Sheffield led", but sure.

 

[RGY]

Bumgarner isn't available. Mets would never trade DeGrom or Syndergaard short of maybe an overpayment, and who knows what Cleveland wanted for Kluber.

Paxton is a borderline ace. It WAS a good trade.

You keep saying this about Bumgarner, but its not true. SF is listening to offers.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Bumgarner isn't available. Mets would never trade DeGrom or Syndergaard short of maybe an overpayment, and who knows what Cleveland wanted for Kluber.

Paxton is a borderline ace. It WAS a good trade.

Buster Olney wrote a piece the other day about it. No one actually knows if Bumgarner is or not. We're all playing a guessing game with him right now.

Syndergaard may or may not be available. DeGrom would cost the world and rightfully so.

You're right, who knows what Cleveland wanted for Kluber. I hope you're right and it's a good trade, but I have my doubts about Paxton, especially his health and the fact that in a pitcher's park (for AL standards) his numbers weren't all that great and now he's gonna be in Yankee Stadium.

I hope I eat my words, but who knows.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

Never said the words "Sheffield led", but sure.

Okay but they need multiple starters. So you have to do the best you can by breaking up the prospect packages.
Since Sheffield isn't getting you the pitchers you named, a guy like Paxton is likely the next best option. While still having ammo for possibly another TOR starter.

 

[nyr2k2]

I wasn't as high on Sheffield as some of you guys so this seems like a good deal. I'm a little leery of Paxton holding up and pitching at YS, but sometimes you just gotta roll the dice.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

Some have speculated that the Indians would want an Andujar or Torres led package.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Okay but they need multiple starters. So you have to do the best you can by breaking up the prospect packages.
Since Sheffield isn't getting you the pitchers you named, a guy like Paxton is likely the next best option. While still having ammo for possibly another TOR starter.

Yup.

They could STILL go for someone like Kluber/Carrasco or Bumgarner (if he is actually available) if they wanted to.

Not even gonna include DeGrom or Thor. They simply aren't getting traded here short of MAYBE a major overpayment

 

[pld459666]

Would have rather gambled with signing Corbin to strengthen the negotiating position on trade talks for this guy.

30 years old, do not expect to see his best days ahead.

Not a fan of this trade.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I wasn't as high on Sheffield as some of you guys so this seems like a good deal. I'm a little leery of Paxton holding up and pitching at YS, but sometimes you just gotta roll the dice.

This is where I come out as well.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Would have rather gambled with signing Corbin to strengthen the negotiating position on trade talks for this guy.

30 years old, do not expect to see his best days ahead.

Not a fan of this trade.

You're acting like he's 40, lol. He's 30. Plenty of starters pitch very well in their early to mid 30's.

 

[pld459666]

You're acting like he's 40, lol. He's 30. Plenty of starters pitch very well in their early to mid 30's.

Typically its guys that have had a history of pitching well before that.

His career high is 160 innings pitched.

Hes thrown 2 complete games in his career.

Hes at best, a middle of the rotation starter.

Not really interested in giving up a young pitcher that has every chance of being better in 2 years for a guy that will probably not be with the Yankees in 2 years.

Wasted asset

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Typically its guys that have had a history of pitching well before that.

His career high is 160 innings pitched.

Hes thrown 2 complete games in his career.

Hes at best, a middle of the rotation starter.

Not really interested in giving up a young pitcher that has every chance of being better in 2 years for a guy that will probably not be with the Yankees in 2 years.

Wasted asset

Lol

 

[Machinehead]

Imagine...all four.

If Machado isn't a target, then it stands to reason that Andujar isn't a trade chip.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Typically its guys that have had a history of pitching well before that.

His career high is 160 innings pitched.

Hes thrown 2 complete games in his career.

Hes at best, a middle of the rotation starter.

Not really interested in giving up a young pitcher that has every chance of being better in 2 years for a guy that will probably not be with the Yankees in 2 years.

Wasted asset

"Hes at best, a middle of the rotation starter."

Now I know this argument is a waste of time. Paxton is a borderline #1 starter, an elite #2 at the worst. He's also under contract until 2021.

 

[Machinehead]

The tables turn.