Player Discussion Mitch Marner

[Antropovsky]

They said the same thing on Sportsnet, when he's playing best the team looks their best.

Lol... of course, Nylander and Matthew's have been incredible and consistent all year. It was Tavares and Marner who weren't producing as they are expected to. Now that Marner is producing consistently and Nylander and Matthews are resuming their torrid pace, the team is winning more.

Why would anyone expect differently...?..it makes perfect sense.

Giving Marner credit is absurd though lol. But expected by some posters.

 

[ULF_55]

Oh..you decided to go back in time? For some unknown reason. Still better than the typical lolz). Happy to respond.

Marner had 36 points in 24 games, a run of 1.3 ppg. Second half is 41 games FYI. Small correction.

Are we sleeping on Kadri's skill? Kadri was attached to Komarov for two seasons before Babs put Marner on the line, and the line produced very well for the 20-some games it was together. Kadri was a 7th overall pick and a very skilled player. He had abysmal linemates in his career (see photo attached) and was used as a shutdown center by Babs. Kadri had 87 points in 71 gp playing with second liners in Colorado. Thats a 100 point pace. Does Marner have a year we can reference wirh 2nd liners where he produced 1.22 ppg?

Point stands - Keefe admitted that he keeps Nylander and Matthew's apart to create match-up issues. He tried Marner away from Matthews and Marner struggled. Marner has struggled away from Matthews for some time now. Nylander is producing with anyone he's paired with. We've yet to see Marner carry 2nd line players. Yet we continue to hear that Marner is the reason Tavares, Matthews and Kadri produced x amount of points. Yet they have similar seasons and even better ppg with 2nd, 3rd line players. But we can't say the same about Marner wirh 2nd/3rd liners. Maybe these incredibly skilled players are lifting Marner?

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Imagine if Marner had these linemates?

They spoke about Kadri last night, and commented on his skill.

Not sure others interpreted the commentary the same way, but to me it was "when he concentrates on playing he's really good." For me the insinuation was he has to stay away from the antics and just play to his skill.


marner just has to be marner through 106 games in the year.

 

[stickty111]

Yes when Rielly is out, we win almost every game. It follows that Rielly's so bad, that we're a much better team without him. Right?

Give your head a shake. Actually, better make that two shakes.

Its Marner.

When the team is playing best, its when Marner is playing best, like he has been lately. Its no coincidence the team looks as good as it has all year at the same time Marner has been in God mode. He is the engine.

We have a winning record when Matthews is out.

We have a winning record when Rielly is out.

We have a winning record when Tavares is out

We have a winning record when Nylander is out.

When Marner is out our record is HORRENDOUS.

He is the engine.

Yup maybe thats why we keep failing in the playoffs because he's our best player. Matthews is our best player. Not even close

 

[DarkKnight]

I'm just so glad I can enjoy the player at his best, unlike the ankle biter crowd and their intellectually mind numbing agendas. You're missing out, it's been a clinic of late.

 

[BraveCanadian]

IMO they are right to call him the engine.

Marner playing well is the single biggest factor in the team doing well outside of goaltending.

 

[BTP]

Yes when Rielly is out, we win almost every game. It follows that Rielly's so bad, that we're a much better team without him. Right?

Give your head a shake. Actually, better make that two shakes.

Nobody is saying we're a better team when ______ is out.

Im saying its quite obvious that when MARNER is at his best, the team is also at its best. Its no coincendence whenever he's at his best the team looks as good as it does. all the time.

Marner at his best = Matthews scores more goals, PK is better, PP is better.

They said the same thing on Sportsnet, when he's playing best the team looks their best.

Because its pretty obvious. But I guess people only value goals

Lol... of course, Nylander and Matthew's have been incredible and consistent all year. It was Tavares and Marner who weren't producing as they are expected to. Now that Marner is producing consistently and Nylander and Matthews are resuming their torrid pace, the team is winning more.

Why would anyone expect differently...?..it makes perfect sense.

Giving Marner credit is absurd though lol. But expected by some posters.

No. Its now that Marner is in BEAST mode, Matthews is scoring at an ELITE level, its not a coincidence. The entire team looks better because he is the offensive engine of the team.

The player you think is the best scores the most goals when Marner is playing his best.

 

[DarkKnight]

Nobody is saying we're a better team when ______ is out.

Im saying its quite obvious that when MARNER is at his best, the team is also at its best. Its no coincendence whenever he's at his best the team looks as good as it does. all the time.

Marner at his best = Matthews scores more goals, PK is better, PP is better.

Because its pretty obvious. But I guess people only value goals

No. Its now that Marner is in BEAST mode, Matthews is scoring at an ELITE level, its not a coincidence. The entire team looks better because he is the offensive engine of the team.

The player you think is the best scores the most goals when Marner is playing his best.

It's his defensive play I'm loving. And he's quickly falling down the turnover NHL list, which is interesting because guys who have the puck commit a lot, yet he's fallen off there, he simply isn't giving it up at all. Right now he's the total package, winning pucks, protecting the puck, making plays and alway on the right side of the play. This is exactly why he was a Selke nominee what we're seeing right now.

Here's the bottomline, cranky attention seekers aside, his own coach and teammates say he's the engine of the team, "can do it all". Does it really matter if people still arguing about Mark freaking Hunter agree?

My hope, he doesn't put too much pressure on himself and get tight in the playoffs. The opposition will target him, particularly physically, he has to fight through that, not curl away and start making bad decisions. It's the same for Matthews, who doesn't want the puck when faced with adversity, they need to find the next level. I see a new maturity this year, let's hope it's the breakthrough we crave. Mitch is the key to that, hence yes, he's the engine of the team.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'm just so glad I can enjoy the player at his best, unlike the ankle biter crowd and their intellectually mind numbing agendas. You're missing out, it's been a clinic of late.

If it makes you happy, then you just keep yelling at that cloud.

 

[GoonieFace]

If it makes you happy, then you just keep yelling at that cloud.

Some people need a hobby, Marner is playing great, but to come on here and post numerous times praising him, is downright creepy. I guess people need some sort of validation to live

 

[Arzak]

Some people need a hobby, Marner is playing great, but to come on here and post numerous times praising him, is downright creepy. I guess people need some sort of validation to live

It's even creepier considering we are in the midst of 70 goal season by his line mate.

 

[DarkKnight]

 

[Arzak]

Nice and lucky refs didn't call it. See they are not always out to get us !

 

[Notsince67]

Some people need a hobby, Marner is playing great, but to come on here and post numerous times praising him, is downright creepy. I guess people need some sort of validation to live

I find it cringe that even after a prolonged period of play when he is playing like neo on the matrix, that a few insecure people around still need to try to be such obnoxious attention seekers and attack the kid. Your attempt to make its seem creepy is just overcompensating for your own previous over the top attacks that look really silly right now.

 

[CelticDruid]

I find it cringe that even after a prolonged period of play when he is playing like neo on the matrix, that a few insecure people around still need to try to be such obnoxious attention seekers and attack the kid. Your attempt to make its seem creepy is just overcompensating for your own previous over the top attacks that look really silly right now.

Creepy?

 

[Gary Nylund]

I find it cringe that even after a prolonged period of play when he is playing like neo on the matrix, that a few insecure people around still need to try to be such obnoxious attention seekers and attack the kid. Your attempt to make its seem creepy is just overcompensating for your own previous over the top attacks that look really silly right now.

Not sure if that's , or creepy, most likely a bit of both.

He's having another good season overall but it's not like he's doing anything that hasn't been done before by many, many different players. Even this season, sure he's been good but he's what, 6th in scoring among wingers in the NHL?

The kid's a hockey player FFS. Seriously dude, get a grip.

 

[Evilhomer]

Nice and lucky refs didn't call it. See they are not always out to get us !

Yeah, I thought the puck was not allowed to move backwards on a shootout?

 

[Antropovsky]

Nobody is saying we're a better team when ______ is out.

Im saying its quite obvious that when MARNER is at his best, the team is also at its best. Its no coincendence whenever he's at his best the team looks as good as it does. all the time.

Marner at his best = Matthews scores more goals, PK is better, PP is better.

Because its pretty obvious. But I guess people only value goals

No. Its now that Marner is in BEAST mode, Matthews is scoring at an ELITE level, its not a coincidence. The entire team looks better because he is the offensive engine of the team.

The player you think is the best scores the most goals when Marner is playing his best.

Hate to break it to you... Matthews scored 12 goals in 10 games when he was split from Marner early in the year. Don't know if it gets more "Beast Mode" than 12 goals in 10 games.

 

[Arzak]

Yeah, I thought the puck was not allowed to move backwards on a shootout?

hh you can be sure that's what Sesterkin is protesting to ref right after the goal.

On they other hand, they rarely call it

 

[Evilhomer]

hh you can be sure that's what Sesterkin is protesting to ref right after the goal.

On they other hand, they rarely call it

That's exactly what I think Shesterkin was saying, and to be fair I think he had a point. Kind of like the silly "double tap" disallowed shootout goal in the Florida game at the start of the season.

 

[therealkoho]

He truly is a unicorn in regular season play, but I have not liked him at all when it comes to the playoffs.

One more go at it, and if nothing comes of it - trade him.

And you'd be trading the wrong guy at least in my opinion

 

[therealkoho]

Just when you think the proclamations on HF can’t get any more absurd, along comes the comments about moving Marner to play defence.

Let’s try to think it through logically - - an elite offensive forward who has struggled defensively and isn’t the least bit physical changing positions to become a defenceman?

Might as well suggest moving Marner to be the goalie. He made a great save with the next empty earlier this week and imagine the offence he could provide as a goalie.

Hurrr durrr, he’d be the highest scoring goalie in league history!

Not being physically imposing does not mean he isn't physical.

Going into corners, hard on the forecheck, blocking shots are all physical plays and Marner does all of them.

 

[therealkoho]

Yup maybe thats why we keep failing in the playoffs because he's our best player. Matthews is our best player. Not even close

Marner obviously is not the player Matthews is, even though Marner has more playoff points in the same number of games.

When Matthews is playing the Leafs have lost the same number of games as when Marner has played.

With Matthews being the better player and all, an MVP winner, Rocket winner shouldn't he wear the goat horns for the Leafs playoff futility.

 

[DarkKnight]

Marner obviously is not the player Matthews is, even though Marner has more playoff points in the same number of games.

When Matthews is playing the Leafs have lost the same number of games as when Marner has played.

With Matthews being the better player and all, an MVP winner, Rocket winner shouldn't he wear the goat horns for the Leafs playoff futility.

This is the crux of what I don’t understand, if Matthews is our best player, then why does Marner get all the vitriol for the failures? I love Matthews as much as I love Marner, but I don’t feel the need to defend him because he isn’t the lightning rod. Newsflash, Matthews was worse last playoffs than anyone, absolute dogshit against Florida, literally shied away from the puck, didn’t convert on any Marner sauce, shrunk at every key moment. So, why then is there no talk of this in his thread?

I’ve enjoyed Matthews to death this year, and I feel he’s putting the team on his back more and more, not waiting for something to happen, but making it happen. Bodes well. This regular season matters to me for Matthews, why must ignore the good things I see Mitch doing? Because a bunch of bottom feeders live to shit on the guy? And then have the complete lack of self awareness to say it’s weird to defend him? Farcical.

Reilly clicked last playoffs,I see no reason why Marner can’t break through, he’s such a talent. Ditto Matthews, I’ll be cheering rather than pathetically waiting to pounce at every error.

 

[nsleaf]

This is the crux of what I don’t understand, if Matthews is our best player, then why does Marner get all the vitriol for the failures? I love Matthews as much as I love Marner, but I don’t feel the need to defend him because he isn’t the lightning rod. Newsflash, Matthews was worse last playoffs than anyone, absolute dogshit against Florida, literally shied away from the puck, didn’t convert on any Marner sauce, shrunk at every key moment. So, why then is there no talk of this in his thread?

I’ve enjoyed Matthews to death this year, and I feel he’s putting the team on his back more and more, not waiting for something to happen, but making it happen. Bodes well. This regular season matters to me for Matthews, why must ignore the good things I see Mitch doing? Because a bunch of bottom feeders live to shit on the guy? And then have the complete lack of self awareness to say it’s weird to defend him? Farcical.

Reilly clicked last playoffs,I see no reason why Marner can’t break through, he’s such a talent. Ditto Matthews, I’ll be cheering rather than pathetically waiting to pounce at every error.

Agreed, why attack praise for a player for the team they are a fan of??
Narssasistic critics, not worth your time.

 

[ACC1224]

Marner obviously is not the player Matthews is, even though Marner has more playoff points in the same number of games.

When Matthews is playing the Leafs have lost the same number of games as when Marner has played.

With Matthews being the better player and all, an MVP winner, Rocket winner shouldn't he wear the goat horns for the Leafs playoff futility.

Bit of a shambles going on with the post you quoted.