conFABulator
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All good points. The nice thing is we don't have to move him. The right deal or no deal. It's not a dump and team will want him.
Value of: Mitch Marner this offseason (2.5 mil retained)
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Blackhawks own that 2025 1st from the McCabe trade...How about Seth Jones at 2mil retained and Toronto 2025 1st (going back) for Mitch Marner
Marner should be paid less than 10m on his next deal. He was always the worst contract out of the 3 guys they drafted.
Leafs lose in the playoffs because the big contracts don't score. Marner is the least of the offensive worries. Overall defense and goaltending has been good (outside Samsonov).
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If Davidson had a stroke he passes on this mess. We'll keep Seth and pass on green teeth
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BobClarkesfrontteeth
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Don't see them spending 4 million on a goalie. Something in the 2 million range.
16 million left to spend they have 10 forwards signed with 3 RFA forwards(approx. 4 million) and probably 2 rookies in the forwarded mix. 4 Defenceman signed with 1 RFA to sign. I would not be surprised at all if they decided to sign the RFA forwards give Knies, Mcmann and Robertson a shot at the top 2 Left Wing spots and wait until the trade deadline to fill a hoe via a trade.
On the blueline I can see them resigning Edmondson (2.5mil)to play with Lilijgren(2.5 mil) and signing a RHS defenceman for 5/6 million to play with Rielly. Then some league minimum as depth.
Not a perfect lineup but it was always going to take the Tavares contract to end before they could really clean this up. I would not be surprised if they even had a some cap space left at the start of next season 1/2 million.
You'd have to add a lot to doughty just to get marner, adding knies makes it brutal.
You still think that? Marner is an absolute no-show post-season. His 1 x year remaining with 11M is kills any value.
There are still teams that are dreaming about playing in playoffs not winning, Marner is an ideal player for them.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
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Except he's not. Not with 1 x year remaining and 11M. That 11M is better spent elsewhere. I don't understand why any team would pay him 11M just to be a regular season performer.
Marner just tanked his value in this series.
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Gaining a player like Marner is a double-edged sword.
He'll make you win games when they don't matter and disappears when they do matter.
Sounds like he'd fit right in Montreal, Ottawa, or Arizona - 3 try hard teams that do their best to win meaningless games once they've lost the season. I hope Montreal stays far, far away.
He'll make you win games when they don't matter and disappears when they do matter.
Sounds like he'd fit right in Montreal, Ottawa, or Arizona - 3 try hard teams that do their best to win meaningless games once they've lost the season. I hope Montreal stays far, far away.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
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Why would Montreal trade for a rental??? lol
Marner is exactly the type of player you do not pay 11M. And now, he will want 12+ on his next contract.
As far as I understand Utah does have a lot of cap space so 11M for one season isn't a problem for them, and Marner can really help them in the regular. The question is will Marner agree to go to Utah with his full NMC...
KingDeathMetal
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Teams aren't going to lineup to hand Leafs that package for Marner at this point
Also fitting his extension limits market even more as does his NMC
People say crap like this about top players all the time, and yet it never happens that way.
I am guaranteeing you, based on everything we've ever seen in NHL history regarding top players being traded, that a Marner trade brings back a top prospect and two 1sts minimum. I get that you personally don't think he's worth this, but Marner is a 100 pt pace player and Selke finalist who is young. Teams will talk themselves into their "culture" being the right fit for him. Especially if any Toronto retains the max amount, which, why wouldn't they with a year left on the deal?
Please re-visit this reply once Marner is traded, I'm literally begging you.
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You're most likely right, but whoever pays that is going to sorely regret it. Marner is a mirage. Regular season beast, playoff season bust.
HuGort
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They may be interested so long as nothing of value goes in return. Marner is not worth 11M and is a rental.
Doubt he waives his NMC. He is nice and comfy in TO where no one is held to account.
KingDeathMetal
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You're probably right. But you know some team will pull the trigger. Esp if Toronto retains 50% and there is an extension in place.
KingDeathMetal
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If Toronto trades Marner, they're likely retaining 50% in order to maximize the return. They could do the same with Tavares, free up $11m in cap space by the draft, replace both players with upgrades while getting back max return, and only need to carry the additional $11m in dead contract weight for 1 season.
Especially if Toronto decides on a one season re-tool, this would be the ideal move and a BUNCH of teams would be fighting each other to get their hands on either player at 50%. And if Toronto approached both guys and said "Look, we're not re-signing you. Can you wave your NMC so we can get a nice return, and you get the opportunity to chase a Cup and possibly preview a team you might want to sign with?", why on earth would either player say no? It works out for everyone.
Because they have NMCs. They negotiated those for a reason. There is no way Tavares waives his in particular. They want to win in Toronto. They BeLeaf!
