Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[notbias]

Really wish management would confirm they are moving on. That way no Marner agent using the Leafs to drive up the price (using us anyway) or any speculation from all these media people. They just live to use things like, Marner wants to stay but he’s been offered 14 million from team X you know. Jeez, the Leafs will need to beat that to keep him. I’m sick of hearing that.
No need to wait until July 1st. Cut ties now.

Why wouldn't you want other teams to pay more?

 

[Trapper]

Why wouldn't you want other teams to pay more?

I just want his saga with us to end.
All association and let other free agents know that we have cap available.

 

[Lilou]

Perry wanted to be a Leaf, but Dubas turned him down.

I doubt players like Marchand, Tkachuk, Perry, Kane would have ever lasted in Toronto. The puritans in this city would have been screaming to trade them. We had a player like that in Kadri but he was too much man for a fanbase that doesn't like the after the whistle scrums and playing on the edge. This current leafs team is perfect for this fanbase and hockey media. Lets run it back.

 

[Racer88]

Maybe it was Shanahan who insisted they offer him that contract. One of the reasons why he’s gone now among several

Or maybe it was never offered, just more of the Marner marketing team

 

[Superstar]

Perry's primary linemates are McDavid and Draisaitl... I am sure he'd be producing the same here on the 4th line.

Yeah, probably will be producing as much as Marner here...

Perry is literally not afraid to be around the front of the opposition's net, where he scores many of his goals.

 

[Trapper]

Yeah, probably will be producing as much as Marner here...

Perry is literally not afraid to be around the front of the opposition's net, where he scores many of his goals.

They wouldn’t go to the net without a reservation and valet parking.

 

[Nineteen67]

Except that there reportedly was an offer after the 23-24 season.

They couldn’t offer then, at least nothing that could get signed until July 1.

The Leafs dodged a bullet and have a chance to recover in a couple of years versus being stuck in no mans land for the next decade. I’m doubtful they do anything with the opportunity, but at least there’s some hope.

 

[Superstar]

They wouldn’t go to the net without a reservation and valet parking.

Why go to the net when you could just float around the perimeter? Let someone else do it...even the refs see more net front action when they are blowing the play dead after the goalie smothers the puck...

 

[keonsbitterness]

They couldn’t offer then, at least nothing that could get signed until July 1.

The Leafs dodged a bullet and have a chance to recover in a couple of years versus being stuck in no mans land for the next decade. I’m doubtful they do anything with the opportunity, but at least there’s some hope.

Sure they could. Just couldn't officially sign until July 1.

 

[notbias]

Yeah, probably will be producing as much as Marner here...

Perry is literally not afraid to be around the front of the opposition's net, where he scores many of his goals.

He's not even producing as much as Marner now...

 

[Maple Leaf]

Could have gotten a good package for this regular season champion

 

[Superstar]

He's not even producing as much as Marner now...

He's scoring more important goals than Marner ever has, and not being paid that much.

 

[Martin Skoula]

and now do time on ice short handed

Has the PK been good in the playoffs?

 

[notDatsyuk]

Why wouldn't you want other teams to pay more?

True - if someone other than Dubas is dumb enough to give him 11, let them find out the same way we did.

 

[notbias]

True - if someone other than Dubas is dumb enough to give him 11, let them find out the same way we did.

Treliving was willing to give him 13.5 based on reporting... so there is at least one GM you think is dumber than Dubas.

 

[ULF_55]

Has the PK been good in the playoffs?

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[notDatsyuk]

Treliving was willing to give him 13.5 based on reporting... so there is at least one GM you think is dumber than Dubas.

That was reported, more than likely Shanahan's doing, and not only has Tre not signed him, but has tried to trade him.

And if he signs him for 13.5, then yes.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Has the PK been good in the playoffs?

Of the six forwards with more than a minute or two PK time in the playoffs only Knies had a higher ga/60.

 

[Martin Skoula]

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Since 20-21 we’re 15th and under 80% kill rate, there’s a couple runs in there in the 50s. But yeah neither special team is good in the playoffs, I don’t think short handed ice time is a worthwhile gotcha when the other guys on the scoring list are far ahead at ES scoring.

Numbers aside, there hasn’t been a single season with Mitch in charge of either unit that I feel remotely confident about them holding a lead or tying it up late in the third. There’s a sense of panic and inevitability of something going comically wrong.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Mitch mightve had a better overall year than Matthews this season including the playoffs. Both of them are clearly good, but not good enough. If we didn't have this stupid hard cap that made us turn on our own players it'd be another thing, but unfortunately here we are and we need a shakeup in the worst way. Now I just hope we don't blow the 11M on the wrong players. Again, using a chunk of it to lock up Knies to 8 years has got to be priority #1. That is a better outcome than any of the UFAs

 

[png57]

That was reported, more than likely Shanahan's doing, and not only has Tre not signed him, but has tried to trade him.

And if he signs him for 13.5, then yes.

Yea, good on Tre and I think he's got more autonomy now with Shanahan gone.

Now that we have yet another year to add to the sample size of #16's playoff performance, I think the leafs should offer him $3-4million tops. If you contribute like a 3rd or 4th liner, you will get paid like one. Of course, Marner and his agent will likely get butthurt at the number as it feels like a middle finger from the team, but this is business. If you don't produce like a superstar in the playoffs, you don't get paid like one.

Don't like it? Leave.

 

[Racer88]

Yea, good on Tre and I think he's got more autonomy now with Shanahan gone.

Now that we have yet another year to add to the sample size of #16's playoff performance, I think the leafs should offer him $3-4million tops. If you contribute like a 3rd or 4th liner, you will get paid like one. Of course, Marner and his agent will likely get butthurt at the number as it feels like a middle finger from the team, but this is business. If you don't produce like a superstar in the playoffs, you don't get paid like one.

Don't like it? Leave.

This is a great idea however I’m am very fair minded so I would go to 5 mill tops

 

[Niagara Bill]

Marner to Florida rumor is a great one. He would be even better in Florida, protected by players and fans. He is a great skilled player...who can play...but CANNOT lead.
Marner has skill to perform but has not developed the heart, maybe when he sees heart he might. Maybe a coach that puts him on a bench until he does would help.
There is a significant difference between bitching to the referee and whining to a ref. Players know it, fans know it.
Would Marners attitude get him the type of call Gretzky got with Dougie?
His other leading men in Toronto are just like him, AM, Reilly, WN. Put him with Tkachuk, Barkov, Marchand, maybe Bennett, maybe Marner becomes a man. It would be fun.

 

[Anthrax442]

I hope that he goes to LA or LV, just out our faces as much as possible.

 

[ashs]

I'm a huge marner supporter, always been. But if he walks, he should never be considered for jersey retirement. Burn any reference to him. The team has given him everything and yes some fans are POs but they are everywhere we just have more of em.