Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[thewave]

Looks like we’re back to it’s all Marners fault again. Too many mixed messages.
Love to see the “it’s all his fault crew” go at it with the “It’s all of their fault but he’s the only one unsigned ” crew go at it.

You only care if ticket prices go up. Its not a secret you hawk/hock tickets here in the forums therefore compromising your integrity as a contributor. They should can Shanahan and move on from Marner but wont because merch etc.

This place is easy mode after years here.

 

[Confucius]

You only care if ticket prices go up. It’s not a secret you hawk/hock tickets here in the forums therefore compromising your integrity as a contributor. They should can Shanahan and move on from Marner but wont because merch etc.

This place is easy mode after years here.

Still haven’t read a good response as to why, if. Fans don’t want Marner, why are they buying his jersey?

 

[thewave]

Still haven’t read a good response as to why, if. Fans don’t want Marner, why are they buying his jersey?

Personally I think the narrative that he is a choker is fresh. I think a lot of kids really feel a strong connection to the brand because of a very slick PR campaign wit Fortnite etc.

The Marner camp is exceptional at extracting money for sure. He scores more that way than in the net for certain.

 

[rojac]

Personally I think the narrative that he is a choker is fresh. I think a lot of kids really feel a strong connection to the brand because of a very slick PR campaign wit Fortnite etc.

The Marner camp is exceptional at extracting money for sure. He scores more that way than in the net for certain.

I think the whole "they only want to sell merch" thing is a fairy story made up by bitter fans who have told it over and over so many times that they've come to believe it.

 

[Confucius]

I think the whole "they only want to sell merch" thing is a fairy story made up by bitter fans who have told it over and over so many times that they've come to believe it.

Especially since jersey sales are split equally among all teams, with the exception of jerseys sold on site at team owned stores.

 

[Nineteen67]

I think the whole "they only want to sell merch" thing is a fairy story made up by bitter fans who have told it over and over so many times that they've come to believe it.

Pelley addressed it when he spoke at the post season presser. Obviously they’re not in the merch business but their incompetence over the past 60 yrs makes you wonder.

 

[rojac]

Don’t you lie in bed at night tossing and turning because a Sens fan hates you and thinks we are a joke. lol!

Actually, I lie in bed tossing and turning that somebody in my real life will find out that I have posted multiple times in this thread.

 

[thewave]

I think the whole "they only want to sell merch" thing is a fairy story made up by bitter fans who have told it over and over so many times that they've come to believe it.

Pelly did the ultimate tell in saying we arent here just to sell jerseys.

 

[Confucius]

Pelley addressed it when he spoke at the post season presser. Obviously they’re not in the merch business but their incompetence over the past 60 yrs makes you wonder.

All merch sales outside of that sold in team stores is considered NHL property. All the money received goes to the NHL and they supposedly place it under hockey revenue. It then gets split up equally or whatever system Gary is using these days amongst all the teams. So yeah believe Pelley

 

[thewave]

All merch sales outside of that sold in team stores is considered NHL property. All the money received goes to the NHL and they supposedly place it under hockey revenue. It then gets split up equally or whatever system Gary is using these days amongst all the teams. So yeah believe Pelley

What is sold in team stores? Do you mean. Toronto regional are Leaf proceeds and outside that are league?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Pelly did the ultimate tell in saying we arent here just to sell jerseys.

Maybe they are not. They are still going to sell sweaters and other merchandise. The claim is that they are not only going to do that.

 

[Confucius]

What is sold in team stores? Do you mean. Toronto regional are Leaf proceeds and outside that are league?

Stores that are at the arena on site, places like stalls, booths etc. MLSE doesn’t even own the Toronto Maple leafs name or logo. The league took control of team logo’s at least 25 years ago. Anything you see with maple Leafs logo at wall mart, specialty stores like cap shops, jersey shops etc that all goes through the NHL not MLSE. That’s why you see Coyotes gear etc in stores here. It wasn’t Yotes ownership making deals.

 

[thewave]

Stores that are at the arena on site, places like stalls, booths etc. MLSE doesn’t even own the Toronto Maple leafs name or logo. The league took control of team logo’s at least 25 years ago. Anything you see with maple Leafs logo at wall mart, specialty stores like cap shops, jersey shops etc that all goes through the NHL not MLSE. That’s why you see Coyotes gear etc in stores here. It wasn’t Yotes ownership making deals.

That's crazy if I were an original six owner I would be irate. What an infuriating business model.

Thanks for the info

 

[Nineteen67]

All merch sales outside of that sold in team stores is considered NHL property. All the money received goes to the NHL and they supposedly place it under hockey revenue. It then gets split up equally or whatever system Gary is using these days amongst all the teams. So yeah believe Pelley

Did Pelley comment about selling jerseys?

 

[Confucius]

Did Pelley comment about selling jerseys?

Lmao, I was going by what you wrote, “Pelley addressed it”

 

[Leaf Fans]

Did Pelley comment about selling jerseys?

Yes, he said "The fans here not only deserve but demand a championship. And there's no complacency. We're not here to sell jerseys. We're here to win. And we're going to do everything we possibly can to do that,"

 

[Racer88]

What about stupid plays that led to gwgs against the Leafs in playoff games. Do those count?

Marner has at least 7... that's an incredible number, and certainly crippled his teams chances of winning the series.

@Hellcat @ACC1224

Here is the first one I'll show you. What's your thoughts on the "smartest player in the game's" play here. Look at all that space and time...and he flips it out of play. Montreal scored on the ensuing 2 man pp as a result.



Let me guess, you don't want to discuss?

They don’t want to hear that, just his empty calories points stat

If that is the case, it is amazing that no one collects these points as much as him.

Why don't other players step up and collect these points? It makes no sense to me, this would help us win.

Some do…..in the playoffs

 

[Mess]

 

[keonsbitterness]

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Mess reduced to looking at betting sites for Marner rumours.

 

[notbias]

Some do…..in the playoffs

They don't because they don't have as many points...

 

[notDatsyuk]

Pelley addressed it when he spoke at the post season presser. Obviously they’re not in the merch business but their incompetence over the past 60 yrs makes you wonder.

Has Pelley been in charge for the last 60 years, or is he only talking about since he's been here?

 

[Superstar]

Mess reduced to looking at betting sites for Marner rumours.

Marner following in the footsteps of his idol Gilmour, who also played for the Habs...

 

[mikeyz]

Oh please tell me you don’t believe that, lol.

Anytime a team loses you can point to someone and say see he did this la da dada. If McDavid could have tried and got one measly point, Edmonton would have won a Cup. Guess they didn’t pay him enough.

Lol. Dude. You did not seriously just compare losing in game 7 of the 1st round to losing in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals did you????

 

[rojac]

Pelly did the ultimate tell in saying we arent here just to sell jerseys.

Does keeping the core intact really increase jersey sales? I could be wrong but isn't it likely that number of Marner jerseys that they sell would be declining each, because each year more and more of the people who want Marner jerseys already have them. Whereas if you swapped Marner for, say, Mikko Rantanen (just an example), you'd not only have people who want Rantanen Leaf jerseys and of course don't have them, but you'd also have some people with Marner jerseys who don't want to wear an ex-player's jersey so they'd be looking to buy a new one.

And if they really were just interested in selling merch, you'd think they have changed the logo yet again after all it's been eight years. They could've probably gotten away with changing it after five or six.

 

[Antropovsky]

Lol. Dude. You did not seriously just compare losing in game 7 of the 1st round to losing in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals did you????

.. poster @Hellcat said that 2nd place is a first place loser. Indicating a finals appearance means as much as no playoff appearance at all.

Nearly 60 years since a finals appearance ...but it wouldn't matter if the Leafs didn't win the cup. It would be like finishing 32nd.