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Will Marner be traded this off season?

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Brobust said:
There is a really simple solution here for Marner and unfortunately I don't think he and his camp of morons will ever consider it.

Sign on July 1st for the same amount as Nylander with no drama. That will go a long way in resetting the reputation he's developed.
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His rep as someone who shrinks as the games get bigger will remain. He should not be extended under almost any circumstances.

The only way I would extend him is a one year deal at a massive discount. If Marner addressed the media, said he is disappointed in his playoff performance, wants to do something to make up for it for the fans. One year extension at 5 million dollars, tell the fans that he hopes the extra cap space will help us win, say he made a lot of money on his last contract so can afford to try this for one year and see what happens.

It'll never happen but if that was the deal and that was his attitude, that would be the only way I'd move forward with Marner. Nylander's deal, fuggedaboudit.
 
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ToneDog said:
Kyper on the "they gotta get John to waive" train. I wonder if he is doing it to save Marner b/c I doubt it will work if Shanny's brain kicks in.
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They do though. A trade is the best case scenario and makes for the least complications. Tavares is trending to put up 50-60 points next season. You need to find a team that will take him with the least retention for us to be competitive. Tavares was right "we are right there". Just not with you John you gotta go.

Marner will thrive playing on a 2nd line sans Tavares. JT makes any line he plays on slow and predictable.
 
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Gary Nylund said:
His rep as someone who shrinks as the games get bigger will remain. He should not be extended under almost any circumstances.

The only way I would extend him is a one year deal at a massive discount. If Marner addressed the media, said he is disappointed in his playoff performance, wants to do something to make up for it for the fans. One year extension at 5 million dollars, tell the fans that he hopes the extra cap space will help us win, say he made a lot of money on his last contract so can afford to try this for one year and see what happens.

It'll never happen but if that was the deal and that was his attitude, that would be the only way I'd move forward with Marner. Nylander's deal, fuggedaboudit.
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Marner's camp was upset Lou refused to give him bonuses. He's never leaving $7m off the table. fuggedaboudit
 
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Darcy Tucker said:
They do though. A trade is the best case scenario and makes for the least complications. Tavares is trending to put up 50-60 points next season. You need to find a team that will take him with the least retention for us to be competitive. Tavares was right "we are right there". Just not with you John you gotta go.
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Agreed but so does Mitch need to go. Odds are JT will be harder to move but Kyper is doing his part.
 
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I doubt John waives his NMC, but I don't see why the team brings him back unless the discounted rate is a massive discounted rate. Its very possible he'll be a 40pt getter next year...do you want to commit to that?
 
HamiltonNHL said:
Marner cant be expected to fight.
I wouldn't ask him that.

He's a great regular season playmaker with variable effort levels.

It might be nice to keep him, but we need a more balanced team.

JT coming off the books isn't enough.

Rielly needs a #1 D.
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Neither should Pasta, but he asked his coach for permission to do so.

A lot of our guys just don’t get it. Marner included.
 
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ToneDog said:
Agreed but so does Mitch need to go. Odds are JT will be harder to move but Kyper is doing his part.
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I'm not done with Marner like I am JT. I can see Marner putting up 100 points next season on a revamped 2nd line. He put up 85 in 69 games. He has the capability to be a star player still. JT is cooked. He's getting PP1 time and easier matchups and only putting up 60ish points.
 
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57 Years No Cup said:
So what? Playoffs matter.
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I agree Marner was not up to snuff. But he still had 1 more point than JT at the same caphit. He also missed 13 games down the stretch and was forced to play with a slow boat anchor when he was back. It was not like he put up 3 points playing with McDavid.

Hard to drive a line when you're playing with a cooked JT.
 
Brobust said:
Of those 16, you have an entire top 6, 2 top 4 defence, and one half of a tandem.
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No we don't.

Darcy Tucker said:
I agree Marner was not up to snuff. But he still had 1 more point than JT at the same caphit. He also missed 13 games down the stretch and was forced to play with a slow boat anchor when he was back. It was not like he put up 3 points playing with McDavid.

Hard to drive a line when you're playing with a cooked JT.
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But isn't he an elite line driver that makes players around him better?
 
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57 Years No Cup said:
No we don't.


But isn't he an elite line driver that makes players around him better?
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Hard to make that ^ better.
 
Darcy Tucker said:
I'm not done with Marner like I am JT. I can see Marner putting up 100 points next season on a revamped 2nd line. He put up 85 in 69 games. He has the capability to be a star player still. JT is cooked. He's getting PP1 time and easier matchups and only putting up 60ish points.
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Three problems:

1. Mitch most likely asking $12.5m.
2. He disappears in the playoffs
3. He is the odd man out if they decide they cannot/will not run back this core
 
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HamiltonNHL said:
The Leafs will never win anything with Marner on the books. It's just that simple.

Expect Marner to be signed because it's not about winning.
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A lot of potential truth about this. Bay Street only wants money. There is no emotional attachment beyond the traditional symbol and what the brand can do.
How is it possible to go to the board of governors meeting and hold your head high. Not because of success on the ice. 57 years is the only proof you need.
 
I have a lot of respect for JT. I also think his deal after this one will be very valuable and part of a solution. He works hard, had a good playoff series and if he's signing for 4.5M after next year that's a great asset. Marner will be asking for 100M over 8 years.
 
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With Marner and with every player on this team, we have consider the idea that it's not them but something fundamentally wrong overall. Every guy leaves and has massive success somewhere else.

Maybe they should spend some time on figuring that out before trading their best players.
 
Brobust said:
With Marner and with every player on this team, we have consider the idea that it's not them but something fundamentally wrong overall. Every guy leaves and has massive success somewhere else.

Maybe they should spend some time on figuring that out before trading their best players.
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Marner won't have massive success here. I do believe he'll be good elsewhere. It doesn't matter ultimately
 
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