Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[Nineteen67]

Rather than change the core, get players to compliment the way the core plays.

They’ve done that. They need players that can carry the core.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Started with his prolonged negotiation with Nylander. No reason to drag it to the final hour only to fold to his demands. Matthews' and Marner's agents smelled blood in the water and Dubas caved much quicker for them.

In an ideal world, Tavares should've been the ceiling.

$7M wasn't bad for a talented 2W.

But when you have given $11M to a 2C, how are you supposed to give less to a better 1C?

Matthews' wasn't out of line considering the amount paid to a 2C, but Marner should have received maybe $1M more than Nylander.

Without the terrible Tavares signing he should have been able to get Matty, Mitch, and Willy for $8, $7, and $6 respectively, or maybe $1M more each.

To an extent, maybe you're right - if he hadn't messed up the Nylander negotiations, Matthews and Marner may not have realized how easily they could take advantage of him.

 

[notDatsyuk]

If you cut my leg off, my 85 year old mother would beat me in a race

Where'd I leave my bone saw?

 

[ToneDog]

$7M wasn't bad for a talented 2W.

But when you have given $11M to a 2C, how are you supposed to give less to a better 1C?

Matthews' wasn't out of line considering the amount paid to a 2C, but Marner should have received maybe $1M more than Nylander.

Without the terrible Tavares signing he should have been able to get Matty, Mitch, and Willy for $8, $7, and $6 respectively, or maybe $1M more each.

To an extent, maybe you're right - if he hadn't messed up the Nylander negotiations, Matthews and Marner may not have realized how easily they could take advantage of him.

10 for Matty sailed when Eich got 10. Allowing Marner to use Matty as his comparable is laughable.

 

[Nineteen67]

10 for Matty sailed when Eich got 10. Allowing Marner to use Matty as his comparable is laughable.

Term….

 

[ToneDog]

Term….

Yeah totally f*** up. Overpaying 4 losers thinking they could win a cup. Hopes are on Tre or Shanny will go down as one of the biggest flops in Leafs history. Sad after the Caps series.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

10 for Matty sailed when Eich got 10. Allowing Marner to use Matty as his comparable is laughable.

Some links you might find interesting

MARNER BRIDGE DEAL 3X$9M DUBAS SAID NO

MARNER PROPOSED THREE YEAR BRIDGE

MARNER AGENT APPROACHED OTHER TEAMS

MARNER DIRTY NEGOTIATION TACTICS

MARNERS DIRTY NEGOTIATION TACTICS II

LOW BALL OFFER

TWO OFFER SHEETS

MATTHEWS 8 YEAR DEAL DUBAS SAID NO

MATTHEWS WANTED 3x$9M RFA BRIDGE DUBAS SAID NO

Dubas is a f***ing idiot and I hope they trade Marner today.

 

[Arzak]

I've suggested this in the past. He can supplement his income promoting "chicken wings" for the anchor bar, selling fire insurance and pumping the duty free.

Skipping legs days in the gym for years, all for this unique opportunity!

"Give me a bucket of Mitchy Wings, with an extra Pk on top !"

edit: "That will be $11 please."

 

[Trapper]

Some links you might find interesting

MARNER BRIDGE DEAL 3X$9M DUBAS SAID NO

MARNER PROPOSED THREE YEAR BRIDGE

MARNER AGENT APPROACHED OTHER TEAMS

MARNER DIRTY NEGOTIATION TACTICS

MARNERS DIRTY NEGOTIATION TACTICS II

LOW BALL OFFER

TWO OFFER SHEETS

MATTHEWS 8 YEAR DEAL DUBAS SAID NO

MATTHEWS WANTED 3x$9M RFA BRIDGE DUBAS SAID NO

Dubas is a f***ing idiot and I hope they trade Marner today.

If Marner wants to get paid send him to Pitttsburgh. Dubas can do us a solid by talking to Marner and getting him to waive.
One more time Kyle. You owe us.

 

[keonsbitterness]

It would have been better if Pelley just came out like this:
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Hello my Leaf fans, get out your money,
We have new jerseys for sale,
Don’t forget to grab some snacks,
You know we’re running it back…

Arguably the greatest cartoon ever!

When we trading this loser?

Soon and never are tied for the lead.

 

[Madap]

Damn. I was fancying new feet because I like a pair of shoes that don't fit. Wise word have now given me pause. I wonder about the rest of the folks here.

Holy, calm down Nostradamus. It’s obvious you think you’re smarter than everyone but get down off that high horse. You’re the one who’s still being fooled by this loser of a core.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

The snark returns!

 

[Nineteen67]

The snark returns!

Could have titled it Games 5,6, and 7 version. Same thing.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

How did it ever get from this to this.

Where did they go so wrong. So much potential. All wasted.

The greatest opportunity to win the cup in a lifetime pissed away.

By incompetent management. Greedy players. Lethargic fans.

And a soft media that licks the team's ass.

The fans deserve better. Better than being lied to and fed empty promises. We deserve a team full of players on it we can be proud of.

Not this shit mess they expect us to gobble up and beg for more of the same.

 

[Arzak]

The snark returns!

I don't agree with the sentiment that we'll lose Marner trade.

We'll end up with Marner-less team, as far I'm concerned it's hard to lose a Marner trade.

Plus I have a hard time calling a team paying assets for the privilege of spending a huge portion of their cap on Mitch Marner a winner of any trade.

 

[Clark4Ever]

According to Pierre Lebrun, Marner has no intention of submitting a limited trade list and intends to play out the final year of his contract in Toronto.

Treliving's hands may be tied in this case.

 

[Trapper]

According to Pierre Lebrun, Marner has no intention of submitting a limited trade list and intends to play out the final year of his contract in Toronto.

Treliving's hands may be tied in this case.

As long as he doesn’t cut them off in a year by giving him 12.5. Let him walk then. He can use this year to do his farewell Leafs tour.

 

[rumman]

Exactly. Leafs don’t have the culture to do the necessary things.
There is a reason Boston would move on from a Thornton, they didn’t believe he had the intensity and team identity for the playoff haul. What would we do, pay him more and expect they figure it out.

People are worried about one Marner. The Bruins have moved on from more than one that didn’t fit the team standard and accountability.

Boston moved on from Thorton, Kessel, Seguin, among others, they know when to fish and when to cut bait……

 

[thewave]

He needs out of Toronto.
Toronto needs to move on.

He should realize his next contract will be less if he plays one game for Toronto next year. He won't handle the heat well, the media will pounce, he'll fall apart under the pressure. His next contract will reflect his poor play.

He's ridiculous if he thinks he can play through this and do well. Since his agent is a shit show. I expect Marner to do stupid things.

We cant break Mitch anymore than Mitch breaks himself. That series was peak trash for him. Trashiest 11m playoff ever.

Daily rep. Get outttaaaa heeeere

 

[Nineteen67]

According to Pierre Lebrun, Marner has no intention of submitting a limited trade list and intends to play out the final year of his contract in Toronto.

Treliving's hands may be tied in this case.

Where did he say that? I’ve heard LeBrun on the radio/podcasts a few times and never heard him say that.

 

[thewave]

Where did he say that? I’ve heard LeBrun on the radio/podcasts a few times and never heard him say that.

Just make him look terrible then. 3rd line no PP. All D zone starts. Carry a line you 11m per year man child.

 

[Egghead1999]

We know Berube has spoken to Mitch, and will again. I’m curious how those intersections go and if Berube thinks Marner can make the leap come playoffs. His input is probably part of the equation.

Did you watch both conf final series' 1st game? Can MM be even "effective" in the least physical one (DAL vs EDM)?

 

[TMLegend]

Boston moved on from Thorton, Kessel, Seguin, among others, they know when to and when to cut bait……

Not afraid to cut loose players who don't fit the culture. Hamilton is another high profile player they traded early in his career.

I don't like the Bruins, but I have respect for how they run their team.

The Leafs are too politically motivated in my opinion. They care more about their image as an organization and thus will always choose the safe option. Keeping the core around is the safest option. It's not what I want to happen but I'll bet good money they'll end up resigning Marner and probably Tavares too.

 

[thewave]

Did you watch both conf final series' 1st game? Can MM be even "effective" in the least physical one (DAL vs EDM)?

He is Semin level wimpy. So no

 

[keonsbitterness]

As long as he doesn’t cut them off in a year by giving him 12.5. Let him walk then. He can use this year to do his farewell Leafs tour.

One scenario: Leafs open negotiations. If the sides are too far apart (as I expect them to be), Leafs should publicly declare negotiations over and ask Marner for a list of teams.

Whatever happens, Leafs need to put the onus on Marner.