Don’t know about that, it might be the other way around, Eichel +. He barely played this season, openly wants out, question marks over his health. Buffalo have no leverage and aren’t exactly in a position of power here. Marner’s been bad this playoffs, but he was still a top 5 point producer in the league.
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Don’t know about that, it might be the other way around, Eichel +. He barely played this season, openly wants out, question marks over his health. Buffalo have no leverage and aren’t exactly in a position of power here. Marner’s been bad this playoffs, but he was still a top 5 point producer in the league.
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Atomos2
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God damn annoying knowing Marner is getting paid 11m for this garbage.
We should put a bag of cash ($200K) behind the Montreal end and tell Mitch it's his if he can get a goal and an assist in Game 7. Might move the needle for a change. Or tell him Tavares and Keefe will give him the captaincy.
Mitch plays for Mitch.
Mitch plays for Mitch.
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When you hold a team hostage for a big contract, you don’t get to play the blame game. He got paid, and now he has to perform.
Atomos2
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It’s disgusting that this kid thought he was “that” much better than the rest of the Nhl. Now he just got a fat dose of reality where young hab players that barely have even half the experience as him are outshining him in a playoff series. Disgusting.
And people expect us to give him the benefit of the doubt? f*** no.
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Paul Marner's burner account has finally arrived
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Marner is a genuine game breaking talent, unfortunately for us he looks incapable of doing anything productive offensively right now
I'd be looking to move him around next game, have him with Spezza and/or with Kerfoot and Galch some of the time
Almost make him stop deferring to Matthews and force him to start driving play with some less talented guys
I'd be looking to move him around next game, have him with Spezza and/or with Kerfoot and Galch some of the time
Almost make him stop deferring to Matthews and force him to start driving play with some less talented guys
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That slot setup for Mitch in OT and the cross crease pass for a wide open net in the dying minutes of regulation were pretty nice setups by Matty.
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BraveCanadian
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I'd be for that. What Marner especially needs is someone who isn't afraid to drive to the net and pay the price in front. Create some chaos and let Marner get them the puck.
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Small, soft, non physical highly skilled player that avoids contact and plays on the perimeter, and prefers to pass rather than shoot.
Great for regular season play and points padding if that's your thing, but that is a bad recipe for success for playoff style hockey, when the games become low scoring, tight checking and far more physically imposing and played at higher pace and intensity with increased pressure for success.
That is what separates Marner from his peers like Aho, Point, Kucherov, Kane, Pastrnak etc who seem to thrive during the regular season, but then take their games to whole new levels come playoff time, because their style of play despite their smaller stature, isn't a hindrance to themselves nor their team.
That's my opinion anyways, and I have the stats to back it up, but most of you already now this without further proof and analytics to convince otherwise.
That position of mine hasn't changed mind you as it goes back to draft day in fact and was a concern even before Leafs made him their top 5 pick. Not a player you desire as part of your core if winning Stanley Cups is the big picture objective. Factor in his his contract and top 5 league high AAV, and he suddenly becomes a liability and no longer an asset, because it not only impacts him through his play but the team around him due to his high cap consumption in comparison to his actual expected contribution at that remuneration.
Only Marner can prove his doubters wrong and start producing goals and assists to put himself among the NHL playoff scoring leaders like good players tend to do, and we're seeing from his comparable peer group that drive their teams success. That makes game #7 a good time to start making that case for himself.
So what do you say Mitch? You want to be part of the solution or part of the problem. Put in a Dougie Gilmour Leafs game tape from 1993 or 1994 and sees how its done, and then do that.
Great for regular season play and points padding if that's your thing, but that is a bad recipe for success for playoff style hockey, when the games become low scoring, tight checking and far more physically imposing and played at higher pace and intensity with increased pressure for success.
That is what separates Marner from his peers like Aho, Point, Kucherov, Kane, Pastrnak etc who seem to thrive during the regular season, but then take their games to whole new levels come playoff time, because their style of play despite their smaller stature, isn't a hindrance to themselves nor their team.
That's my opinion anyways, and I have the stats to back it up, but most of you already now this without further proof and analytics to convince otherwise.
That position of mine hasn't changed mind you as it goes back to draft day in fact and was a concern even before Leafs made him their top 5 pick. Not a player you desire as part of your core if winning Stanley Cups is the big picture objective. Factor in his his contract and top 5 league high AAV, and he suddenly becomes a liability and no longer an asset, because it not only impacts him through his play but the team around him due to his high cap consumption in comparison to his actual expected contribution at that remuneration.
Only Marner can prove his doubters wrong and start producing goals and assists to put himself among the NHL playoff scoring leaders like good players tend to do, and we're seeing from his comparable peer group that drive their teams success. That makes game #7 a good time to start making that case for himself.
So what do you say Mitch? You want to be part of the solution or part of the problem. Put in a Dougie Gilmour Leafs game tape from 1993 or 1994 and sees how its done, and then do that.
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Matthews - Nylander was a good line, is a good line, and will continue to be a good line. With the Marner pairing looking like absolute ass and Nylander having the best series of his career, I don't know why we haven't given those two a look together again.
not sure i do eichel for mitch ... not the injury but we read all the time that 40 mill for your 4 forwards is an imbalance ... so going to 39 balances it out?
need some of that 10.9 for an upgrade on f and d and a b u goalie
need some of that 10.9 for an upgrade on f and d and a b u goalie
For fawks sakes, do you think, a super talent like Marner would be motivated by money above what he has made.
He has no further motivations, than what he has.
Dude, blocked a shot with his body, at 11 mille. close to the end of the third.
Incredible hockey player. Guy is paid like a poor mans nba star.
My goal, is for us to win game seven, and cleanse the team, of all naysayers.
Vaccinations for all doubters, line up.
He has no further motivations, than what he has.
Dude, blocked a shot with his body, at 11 mille. close to the end of the third.
Incredible hockey player. Guy is paid like a poor mans nba star.
My goal, is for us to win game seven, and cleanse the team, of all naysayers.
Vaccinations for all doubters, line up.
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Truthfully Marner was once my favourite player but I've found myself liking him less and less, if he gets traded I wouldn't be upset
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He'd hold out for $300K.
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Look at how Rantanen is playing for Colorado then look at Marner. And Marner got more money. Ridiculous.
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Marner should have been bridged.
It was obvious then, and more obvious now.
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In 2017-18 Marner posted his most productive playoffs. His most frequent opp at 5v5 on D in that series were Torey Krug and Kevan Millar. Hardly a shut down duo. Since then? 18-19 McAvoy-Chara 1 pt at 5v5. 19-20 Jones-Werenski 0 pts at 5v5. So far in 20-21 Weber-Chiariot. He has produced 2 5v5 pts vs Weber and none vs Chiariot. I don't see why anyone would see these results and think Marner rises to the occasion vs tougher D in the playoffs. In 3 combined playoff years against his main defensive opposition at 5v5 he has produced like 3 pts. Total. Across 18 gp. That isn't a good sign.
In 2017-18 Marner posted his most productive playoffs. His most frequent opp at 5v5 on D in that series were Torey Krug and Kevan Millar. Hardly a shut down duo. Since then? 18-19 McAvoy-Chara 1 pt at 5v5. 19-20 Jones-Werenski 0 pts at 5v5. So far in 20-21 Weber-Chiariot. He has produced 2 5v5 pts vs Weber and none vs Chiariot. I don't see why anyone would see these results and think Marner rises to the occasion vs tougher D in the playoffs. In 3 combined playoff years against his main defensive opposition at 5v5 he has produced like 3 pts. Total. Across 18 gp. That isn't a good sign.
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Playoff choker.
I been saying it. He’s the Leafs version of DeRozan.
I been saying it. He’s the Leafs version of DeRozan.
Mitch Marner has taken six penalties during the playoffs in his entire NHL career (31 games), and five of those calls were puck over the glass calls. His last one was the worst of them all. At this point, this isn't a mistake to forgive since clearly, he doesn't understand how to learn from his mistakes. Grow the f*** up.
And he has the audacity to cry about the puck over the glass penalty. What a dumba**.
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I would assume the real issue with his contract negotiation wasn’t money but more of a pride issue.
Marner saw the organization play hardball on Nylander and then roll out the red carpet for Auston Matthews’ extension like the Prince of Gotham. And in his mind his 94 point season and being hometown boy made him every bit the franchise player the Leafs were treating Matthews as. I think that false equivalency based on regular season points is what catapulted Marner from the Aho, Barzal, Rantanen and Point grouping to more of a McDavid, Matthews, Eichel salary bracket.
As skilled as Mitch is, his talent level is unevenly distributed and he doesn’t have a lot of the maturity, confidence and killer instinct a lot of other superstars have to thrive in these big moments. What’s worrisome is he doesn’t seem to have really worked on his shooting or physical strength over the past 5 years. Up to him to prove us wrong.
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