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Just like last season. Hope that's not followed by him sucking in the playoffs (again). Anyhow, I won't be praising him until he excels in the playoffs. I was fooled last season but it's not going to happen again.

and you’ll be sure to let us know about it daily for the next 8 months.
 
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Bang on IMO.

When it really mattered, the Habs showed up and were ready to play from the drop of the puck. The Leafs weren't ready to go.

The same thing happened in games 4 &5 with CBJ and game 7's against Boston in '18 & '19
I haven’t bothered watching a elimination game in 3 years. You just know the team doesn’t show up for them.
 
I really don’t think it’s a lack of effort that he didn’t produce. The Habs game plan work perfectly, take away Marners game by giving him no one to pass to. He had numerous high danger scoring chances but he just is not a finisher. Hopefully he works on his shot this year and becomes a better scoring threat because it was quite obvious that Habs had a good game plan against that line.
 
I haven’t bothered watching a elimination game in 3 years. You just know the team doesn’t show up for them.

I skipped Gm 7 in 2019 against the Bruins. After the big comeback in 2020 I watched Gm 5 and thinking there was no way they could come out flat again this year I was hopeful.

Wrong again.
 
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Golden boy! :sarcasm:
Hey Mitch deserves all the criticism he's getting - don't read my posts or put me on ignore if all you want is cheerleading
17 playoff games without scoring deserves every bit of criticism you have for him. ;)
Funny thing about his contract that everyone calls him selfish on is that Rantanen and Werenski are now within a million to a million and a half of Marner now. Same draft almost same money really. For context it’s Engvall or Kampf type player difference right now. Certain critical stuff of the past holds no water right now other than slight over payment. Which was the beef about bonus schedule he received on signing that takes up some of that.
 
He absolutely deserves all the criticism he’s getting. What I don’t understand is how his other gutless pretender linemate is getting a feed pass from most fans. Because his effort was maybe marginally better than Marner’s.

If anyone can stomach it, try rewatch my game 7. I did couple days ago. The sense of urgency these two cowards put into such a critical game is shocking, but most fans want to gone the other fairy a pass.
 
17 playoff games without scoring deserves every bit of criticism you have for him. ;)
Funny thing about his contract that everyone calls him selfish on is that Rantanen and Werenski are now within a million to a million and a half of Marner now. Same draft almost same money really. For context it’s Engvall or Kampf type player difference right now. Certain critical stuff of the past holds no water right now other than slight over payment. Which was the beef about bonus schedule he received on signing that takes up some of that.
The diff is 1.5mil or so. Instead of getting a 2.3mil player, Leafs need to sign a league min player.

more importantly, Marner becomes John Cena with his You can’t see me act instead of opening a can of whoop as*
 
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Marner drives me crazy when he tries to be too cute, and he definitely was horrible in the Playoffs, and he is overpaid IMO, but suggesting he wrecked the team, or we can’t win with him, seems more than a little over the top.
 
Marner drives me crazy when he tries to be too cute, and he definitely was horrible in the Playoffs, and he is overpaid IMO, but suggesting he wrecked the team, or we can’t win with him, seems more than a little over the top.
Don't think anyone is saying you can't win with Marner just the way the cap.has been allocated. And that the core may be the wrong mix.
 
Marner drives me crazy when he tries to be too cute, and he definitely was horrible in the Playoffs, and he is overpaid IMO, but suggesting he wrecked the team, or we can’t win with him, seems more than a little over the top.
Being over the top is the new norm here.
 
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I would not go that far.

He is currently a choker in playoffs but not someone who wrecked the Leafs.

Marner drives me crazy when he tries to be too cute, and he definitely was horrible in the Playoffs, and he is overpaid IMO, but suggesting he wrecked the team, or we can’t win with him, seems more than a little over the top.

I think I'm one of Marner's biggest critics these days and I agree, saying he wrecked the team is just nuts.
 
I just thought "wrecked" was the new vernacular the kids are using. Like when "bad" meant "good" and "dope" meant "good"
Hahaha. I hear ya. About 10 years ago I dropped my daughter off at university in one of my hot rods and some kid said “hey man that car is sic”
I had to ask my Daughter what that meant and was he insulting me. Lol
Apparently it was good
 
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