Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

DarkKnight

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Small sample size-and obviously a hot streak exaggerates-but Muffin Marner is on a 64 goal pace without Matthews. Makes you wonder if he’s a 40 goal man under the right circumstances. It does pierce this lame narrative that he can’t score, it reaffirms the idea that he defers, rather than an inability to score.
 

Suntouchable13

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Small sample size-and obviously a hot streak exaggerates-but Muffin Marner is on a 64 goal pace without Matthews. Makes you wonder if he’s a 40 goal man under the right circumstances. It does pierce this lame narrative that he can’t score, it reaffirms the idea that he defers, rather than an inability to score.

Yea, let's sign him now to 14M a year. Then they lay another egg in the playoffs. Great plan. We know he is a great player in the regular season. Score in the playoffs maybe for once.
 

ToneDog

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The question is the playoffs. The regular season has never been a problem, we have seen this before. I hope he plays like this in the playoffs too, I really do.
50 points in 57 playoff games, most in games 1-4. 16 goal pace.

Some have short memories. As long as the PP is clicking he will put up good numbers because the PP goes through him and its hard for him not to get a point on every PPG. In the playoffs when they shut down the PP, he is an expensive Alex Kerfoot.
 

sunstersun

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Small sample size-and obviously a hot streak exaggerates-but Muffin Marner is on a 64 goal pace without Matthews. Makes you wonder if he’s a 40 goal man under the right circumstances. It does pierce this lame narrative that he can’t score, it reaffirms the idea that he defers, rather than an inability to score.
His deference has hurt him and this team then. Is a reasonable conclusion no?

If we could have got 40 goal 100 point Marner away from Matthews then this team was totally out of wack for the last 7 years.
 

thewave

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50 points in 57 playoff games, most in games 1-4. 16 goal pace.

Some have short memories. As long as the PP is clicking he will put up good numbers because the PP goes through him and its hard for him not to get a point on every PPG. In the playoffs when they shut down the PP, he is an expensive Alex Kerfoot.

This is the BINGO post.
 
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francis246

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His deference has hurt him and this team then. Is a reasonable conclusion no?

If we could have got 40 goal 100 point Marner away from Matthews then this team was totally out of wack for the last 7 years.

That’s on coaching for not separating them. Do players create the lines? People are blaming the players for shit that’s on management. People cry about the contracts and get mad at the players. Who gave those players the contracts? Management. People cry about Marner forcing plays to Matthews. Who staples them together, coaching. Management and Coaching have been a big part of the problem. If we as fans can recognize these issues why have the people in charge been blind to them? That’s where our main source of anger and resentment should be directed.

Based on what I’ve seen with Matthews out, it’s clear as day he demands the puck at all times. Which is fair because he is an elite goal scorer but it’s to the detriment of the team. Thank God Berube has sense and will hopefully keep them separated.
 

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