Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[Gabriel426]

I’m not overanalyzing anything lol. I’m simply responding to someone who was blaming the break down on one player and I’m suggesting that there were multiple break downs by multiple players resulting in the goal. Which has been a problem for the leafs under keefe, constant break downs of our systems leading to crucial goals.

No one is saying anything about them winning a cup. So I have no idea what that has to do with anything in the discussion.

What I am saying is that there is no point kept discussing that play. It really doesn’t matter if it is MM, or Reilly or Sammy or Willie or Keefe or Dubas or Tre or Shanny.

That play wasn’t the play that screwed the Leafs the Cup.

I just don’t see why someone would bring it up beside trolling MM and his fans and people responding are just falling for it.

 

[ACC1224]

What I am saying is that there is no point kept discussing that play. It really doesn’t matter if it is MM, or Reilly or Sammy or Willie or Keefe or Dubas or Tre or Shanny.

That play wasn’t the play that screwed the Leafs the Cup.

I just don’t see why someone would bring it up beside trolling MM and his fans and people responding are just falling for it.

Pretty much sums up this whole thread.

 

[Gabriel426]

Pretty much sums up this whole thread.

Well MM fans also played a big part too.

Having said that, I think it is more 70 trolls/ 30 fans now but that ratio are constantly shifting, lol.

 

[DarkKnight]

8 games without Matthews "carrying" him, 6 goals, 8 assists, 14 points., plus 6. 144 point pace, 62 goals. Hurry back Big Sexy, he's lost without you.

 

[Gallagbi]

It’s a dump in, you have Tavares and Lub on the right side of the ice. Lubushkin is already pinching up. Tavares is attacking the puck carrier. Ideally Marner cuts off Pasta but as we established Marner was not paying attention.

Rielly should be closer to the net or at least closer to the left corner for puck retrieval, especially if Boosh is pinching up. Nylander is high in the middle. Do we need 4 guys high on a dump? Who is going to retrieve the puck lol? This is simple, if one dman is pinching, the other stays low. I’m sure they all assumed the puck was going to be rung around and not dumped in cross ice, but that’s why you have one guy stay back just incase. It might be more indicative of Keefe’s netural zone defensive scheme. But Rielly is completely out of position there

Personally Id like to have Mo up higher so he can pace better and gain speed. I think deeper leads to he same flat footed response, so he's at the mercy of his reach

Boosh, JT, Willy all seem to have their responsibilities covered. Mo flat footed and Marner allowing the speed to be gained are the issues

 

[Smif]

Since when is a dump in blamed on the winger??

If Marner interfered Pasta it's 2 mins and everyone is up in arms about him taking a penalty. Wingers don't run interference on dump ins anymore, this isn't the 90's.

Regardless, that goal is on Samsonov and Rielly.

 

[francis246]

Since when is a dump in blamed on the winger??

If Marner interfered Pasta it's 2 mins and everyone is up in arms about him taking a penalty. Wingers don't run interference on dump ins anymore, this isn't the 90's.

Regardless, that goal is on Samsonov and Rielly.

This is how I see it as well, if he impedes that’s a clear as day interference or trip called against the leafs.

 

[francis246]

What I am saying is that there is no point kept discussing that play. It really doesn’t matter if it is MM, or Reilly or Sammy or Willie or Keefe or Dubas or Tre or Shanny.

That play wasn’t the play that screwed the Leafs the Cup.

I just don’t see why someone would bring it up beside trolling MM and his fans and people responding are just falling for it.

I apologize, i misunderstood what you were saying at first

 

[ZEBROA]

This is how I see it as well, if he impedes that’s a clear as day interference or trip called against the leleafs.

IMO on the best of his days Mitch would have followed him and shrunken the ice surface, without interference. But most players probably would not in the same situation. We hold him to the highest of standards, as we should.

It was a great play by Lindholm. Not so great by Rielly and Samsonov.

 

[REALTALK81]

Discussing the Pasta goal without talking about the F1's (Tavares) lackadaisical attempt to challenge the pass is an oversight. The whole unit broke down but it started from there.