Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

Antropovsky

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Still find it amusing you had a self timer to be ready to come in here and shit on him and then he scores haha and the leafs win.
Why is it amusing? Ive long said Marner rides the coat tails of Matthews strong 5v5 game and Matthews suffers from Marners weak 5v5 play. Which ive backed up with stats. While certain posters have disagreed strongly to my opinion.

This is a good time to discuss, since it is a rare glimpse of Marner without Matthews and a chunk of time without Tavares too.

With Matthews injured, Marner has:
0 5v5 shots in 4/5 games.
0 5v5 points in all 5 games.
 
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DarkKnight

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So can we agree that goals are better than assists?
He's a playmaker though, why do we have to play this game? And can we agree defence is as important as offence? So many questions.

15 points his last 10. Didn't like his second period tonight, was off last game, but showed up and contributed.
 
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Anthrax442

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He's a playmaker though, why do we have to play this game? And can we agree defence is as important as offence? So many questions.

15 points his last 10. Didn't like his second period tonight, was off last game, but showed up and contributed.

1/2 his assists really because he handles the puck so much. they are not great impressive plays.
 
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Anthrax442

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if mitch had zero goals and zero assists he would still be our best player of the game


No he wasn't. Knies was the best player tonight.

How many grade A's do guys miss too though? I appreciate his playmaking, for me he's the best I've ever seen in a Leafs uniform and I enjoy it. To each his own bro.

I wouldn't care if we didnt have the cap. But since we do, we have to have these dumb discussions, because in this environment every dollar matters and we already have a few overpayments on the team.
 

Antropovsky

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1/2 his assists really because he handles the puck so much. they are not great impressive plays.
Today he got a goal on a 6 vs 4 and an assist on a 3vs3 clearing attempt.

Two of his three 5v5 assists this year were clears from his own zone or a dump in.

His assist on the Nylander pp goal the other game was a pass that deflected high in the air and Nylander picked up off the boards and banked in off a player.

He has an assist on a face-off play, where Matthews literally said he was gonna win the puck forward and told Marner and Knies to go to the net.

... quite literally points for playing with elite linemates.
 

Antropovsky

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How many grade A's do guys miss too though? I appreciate his playmaking, for me he's the best I've ever seen in a Leafs uniform and I enjoy it. To each his own bro.
How many years are we gonna hear this excuse in the season and playoffs?

They aren't grade As.. additionally, he's very predictable. He's not a shooting threat whatsoever, he's rarely even squared to the net. Goalies can read his passes.

Now do 5v5 points.
 
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Antropovsky

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6th in all time leafs scoring and he is only 27, just because he plays with elite players lmao!!
I mean... the stats show that it's true. Your thoughts on Matthews 5v5 points with and without Marner? If Marner is so good, why is Matthews significantly more productive without him?


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arso40

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6th in all time leafs scoring and he is only 27, just because he plays with elite players lmao!!
I mean he came into the league playing with our old first line minus kessel so there’s that then he played with kadri and Tavares then Matthews nobody really gets there without great players not just him
 
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Tie Domi Esquire

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He's going to unironically walk into negotiations asking for $13m a year, despite disappearing when the team's actual star was out injured.

wut :laugh: Meanwhile, on Planet Earth...

He's going to walk into negotiations asking for 13M a year because the team's supposed leader asks for top dollar in the world without committing any term.

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w/o Matthews: 61 games, 80 points out of a possible 122 (65.6%)
w/o Marner: 42 games, 45 points out of a possible 84 (53.5%)
 

arso40

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wut :laugh: Meanwhile, on Planet Earth...

He's going to walk into negotiations asking for 13M a year because the team's supposed leader asks for top dollar in the world without committing any term.

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w/o Matthews: 61 games, 80 points out of a possible 122 (65.6%)
w/o Marner: 42 games, 45 points out of a possible 84 (53.5%)
This is supposed to mean what exactly?
 

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