Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCIX: We're Gonna Party Like It's 99

[Beef Invictus]

Hagel 8 x $6.5m in Tampa. Starts at age 26.

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

www.capfriendly.com

I'd criticize it but they'll probably find a way out of it, or to work it to their advantage.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Those Sens teams completely strangled those Flyers.

The saving grace is I don't think they beat the Red Wings anyway and they probably would have lost as usual to the Leafs at some point too. But we can all rest easy knowing at least the Leafs didn't win the Cup that year.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Those Sens teams completely strangled those Flyers.

Fell out of a tree that series !

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Who hands out more term than Tampa?

What the hell?
What is in the water in Tampa?

Not sure but I hope the cap doesn’t go up significantly after this season.

Stamkos is a UFA at seasons end as well, thing could get interesting.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Not sure but I hope the cap doesn’t go up significantly after this season.

Stamkos is a UFA at seasons end as well, thing could get interesting.

Oh yeah! Stamkos to Philly e4!

 

[Curufinwe]

Not sure but I hope the cap doesn’t go up significantly after this season.

Stamkos is a UFA at seasons end as well, thing could get interesting.

It's supposed to

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

www.capfriendly.com

SEASON	CONFIRMED	% CHANGE	UPPER LIMIT	LOWER LIMIT	MIN. SALARY
2025-26	NHL Estimate	5.14%	$92,000,000	$68,000,000	$775,000
2024-25	NHL Estimate	4.79%	$87,500,000	$64,700,000	$775,000
2023-24	Jun. 23, 2023	1.21%	$83,500,000	$61,700,000	$775,000

 

[deadhead]

Why would the Flyers want Stamkos? Rebuilding teams don't go for older players with inflated contracts on the downside of the aging curve.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Why would the Flyers want Stamkos? Rebuilding teams don't go for older players with inflated contracts on the downside of the aging curve.

Probably because they're not actually rebuilding.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Why would the Flyers want Stamkos? Rebuilding teams don't go for older players with inflated contracts on the downside of the aging curve.

You mean like Staal and Hathaway?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

https://x.com/friedgehnic/status/1694337919966720148?s=46&t=zmCU1iUqdqBxmpu1T-nhdw

Edmonton is gonna be a mess in two years cap wise thanks to Holland. Bouchard & Draisaitl coming up for deals at the same time.

Even if the cap goes up to like $90M+ or whatever they’re speculating. These guys are gonna eat that space up between the two of them. They really don’t have anything big coming off the books in that time either.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Jesus Christ, more than McDavid or Drai.

 

[Curufinwe]

Drai makes $8.5m, and it was called overpayment back in 2017.

2 x $2.35m for Lafreniere who had 39 P in 81 GP last season

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

www.capfriendly.com

 

[Beef Invictus]

Matthews true value is probably something like 16 million. The NHL underpays its best players and relative to that, overpays their middling players. It's a dumb league. Flyers management isn't totally on an island by being unhealthily obsessed with Laughton.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Oh good now I can sleep better knowing Matthews got his money

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Somebody was gonna have to break that ceiling set by McDavid’s contract. Matthews & MacKinnon your best recent opportunities & the latter passed on it.

 

[Sombastate]

God damn that's quite the contract. Toronto is basically gonna be unable to win a cup now.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Ugh this leagues so boring. Matthews to FA would be so fun.

Big names never test FA...when they do its bc they have one team in mind (Tavares, Pietrangelo, what shouldve been gaudreau...)

 

[Magua]

Kyle Dubas is a moron. Again!

It's almost like Matthews can dictate what contract he wants. He will be 30 signing his next contract, and I'd wager that's when he goes max term. He's maximizing his annual salary now, while still getting top dollar on his next contract with a likely higher cap. If he signs 8 years now, he's not getting this type of AAV at age 34. Hockey culture is in shambles -- and if I was a Leafs fan, I'd much prefer MacKinnon's deal -- but he's maximizing his earning potential.

Draisaitl signed his contract in 2017 coming off a 77 point season. MacDavid signed in 2017. MacKinnon is the direct comparison.

Matthews true value is probably something like 16 million. The NHL underpays its best players and relative to that, overpays their middling players. It's a dumb league. Flyers management isn't totally on an island by being unhealthily obsessed with Laughton.

This. It's basically impossible to overpay the truly elite. Will the league ever adjust?

 

[Tripod]

Early Canada media...


..."this is like a 5 year deal because he still had a year left on his deal"

 

[renberg]

There were idiots in Pittsburgh that were sure that when Crosby retires Matthews would go FA and sign there because of Dubas. Guess that isn’t happening

 

[Beef Invictus]

There were idiots in Pittsburgh that were sure that when Crosby retires Matthews would go FA and sign there because of Dubas. Guess that isn’t happening

They're just gonna adjust the timeline back 4 years.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Cap%, not AAV. I'm begging. It's lower than McDavid even after cap stagnation.

Matthews came in at 15.87%. McDavid signed for 16.67% and everyone laughed that he didn't take enough. MacKinnon's over 14. So is Panarin. Pastrnak's just under. So is Marner. Feels about right on the in practice scale.

 

[Tripod]

God damn that's quite the contract. Toronto is basically gonna be unable to win a cup now.

Huh?

He only got a 1.6 million dollar raise. So they can't sign a Hathaway and instead play an ELC instead. Seems like a great plan.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Huh?

He only got a 1.6 million dollar raise. So they can't sign a Hathaway and instead play an ELC instead. Seems like a great plan.

McDavid apparently passed up a deal that would have had him paid like $1.5-2M more a year. He took those savings for the team & their GM’s used that money to sign mid & low tier players to bloated contracts.

Just today we saw the effects of that with them being unable to sign Bouchard to something greater than a two year bridge deal even if they wanted to.