Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCII: A buyer's or seller's market?

[Flyerfan4life]

4 goals in less than 5 games for Vrana with the Blues. Traded for an AHLer and 7th round pick. I know he has another year at $5.25MM, but risk-reward requires risk. If you have cap space and available usage *cough* that’s how you possibly create value out of nothing. It’s amazing how few “rebuilding” teams understand that concept.

wins in the margins is for NERDSSSSS

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

4 goals in less than 5 games for Vrana with the Blues. Traded for an AHLer and 7th round pick. I know he has another year at $5.25MM, but risk-reward requires risk. If you have cap space and available usage *cough* that’s how you possibly create value out of nothing. It’s amazing how few “rebuilding” teams understand that concept.

Has it actually been said what was going on with him to make him such a gamble?

 

[Magua]

Has it actually been said what was going on with him to make him such a gamble?

Not as far as I’m aware. All we know is that he was in the player assistance program, which isn’t necessarily addictions. Even so, Detroit didn’t want him on the NHL team. I won’t speculate. Another team did take him though, so you can’t say it wasn’t possible for others.

 

[Cody Webster]

MAF was so close to being everyone's hero...

 

[Striiker]

This spittle flecked quote yesterday from Arizona’s GM was pretty funny.



It’s hard to trade a -20 player. That’s beyond Chychrun. Oh, to be a shark of a manager in this league.

This clueless idiot ripped off Chuck in a trade.

Holy shit.

 

[flyerslducks]

Man f*** Bennington. But you just know that flyer fans would LOVE him and his shit attitude. Would fit well with lemioux and little man syndrome deangelo

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

MAF was so close to being everyone's hero...

One day Binnington will pick his teeth up off the ice.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

lol almost 20 points outa POs now..

what a truely "hard to play against" team..

hahaaa...

 

[ellja3]

What will happen though is that they'll miss, the Flyers will win too many games, and the Pens will end up winning the lottery and jumping them.

Isn't that a given at this point?

lol almost 20 points outa POs now..

what a truely "hard to play against" team..

hahaaa...

..but.. but.. but... 5th most improved team!!

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Do you know how soccer does with these things? As a complete outsider, I would guess that the pool of players is so large and the method of transfer makes it much easier. But translating metrics and opinions across that many pro leagues is a nightmare.

I know Liverpool is heavy on data for example. But I don’t know if I hear about it because it’s unusual or just because they won often.

Analytics in football is huge and growing all the time. You should have a read about Brentford - I'm sure @CanadianFlyer88 can find an article about their process and the results they have had. There is this one also about Monaco's Paul Mitchell.

Paul Mitchell - Athletic

 

[Flyerfan4life]

so i hear Hart isnt interesting in playing throu the rebuild here. and even Cooter admited thats not what he signed up for.

 

[kudymen]

4 goals in less than 5 games for Vrana with the Blues. Traded for an AHLer and 7th round pick. I know he has another year at $5.25MM, but risk-reward requires risk. If you have cap space and available usage *cough* that’s how you possibly create value out of nothing. It’s amazing how few “rebuilding” teams understand that concept.

It’s funny, right? On the day of that damn Flyers quote I said THIS guy is the definition of a reclamation project

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Do you know how soccer does with these things? As a complete outsider, I would guess that the pool of players is so large and the method of transfer makes it much easier. But translating metrics and opinions across that many pro leagues is a nightmare.

I know Liverpool is heavy on data for example. But I don’t know if I hear about it because it’s unusual or just because they won often.

Analytics in football is huge and growing all the time. You should have a read about Brentford - I'm sure @CanadianFlyer88 can find an article about their process and the results they have had. There is this one also about Monaco's Paul Mitchell.

Paul Mitchell - Athletic

This is a pretty good high level summary of how Matthew Benham (Brentford and Midtjylland owner) has used analytics and mathematical modeling to compete with a smaller budget. It was written during the season that they did earn promotion to the Premier League after a heartbreaking choke the previous season.

Specifics of their methods are hard to come by. Obviously it's a competitive industry where models are generally not shared, but Benham is also an extremely private person already, who rarely talks publicly.

Data on soccer players is lightyears ahead of a sport like hockey, so you can identify inefficiencies beyond the top leagues because even the lesser leagues have comprehensive information about their players. This allows for a constant cycle of bigger clubs poaching players from lesser clubs for a variety of reasons... but it also allows lesser clubs to acquire cast offs from bigger clubs on the cheap.

There's nothing like it in the sporting world because soccer has more high level professional leagues globally than any other team sport.

 

[Striiker]

Do they have any analytics that can help them stop looking like a barbershop quartet?

 

[FlyerNutter]

It’s funny, right? On the day of that damn Flyers quote I said THIS guy is the definition of a reclamation project

Dude was as ugly as a crow but has found his game nicely.

 

[kudymen]

Dude was as ugly as a crow

There are basically two posters on this board who would understand this and I’m glad you brought them both into the conversation

 

[Tripod]

Not NHL news, but QMJHL plans to ban fighting next year.

 

[PALE PWNR]

so i hear Hart isnt interesting in playing throu the rebuild here. and even Cooter admited thats not what he signed up for.

I would question any professional athletes compete level if they DID want to play through a rebuild. That said, that's what this team needs. Good for Hart and Couturier.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Not NHL news, but QMJHL plans to ban fighting next year.

Well hopefully this doesn’t lead to a uptick in major stick and other fouls.

 

[BernieParent]

so i hear Hart isnt interesting in playing throu the rebuild here. and even Cooter admited thats not what he signed up for.

What's your source, FF4L?

 

[deadhead]

Couts said it wasn't what he signed up for, but he was willing to work with the team to get to the other side of the rebuild. Which doesn't surprise me, he may be BSing, but given his leadership, he may also embrace the role of mentor to the kids the next few years.

"I'll do my best to be around and lead the right way and get this this team back on track as quick as possible," Sean Couturier said.



And then of course we have the idiots who want to dump him.
A healthy Couts is exactly who you want leading a young team.

 

[Starat327]

Thata an awkward smile in that profile picture.

Usually the look most women have after a few drinks. We should take what she says with a grain of salt -- likely plucked from the rim of her margarita, if I had to guess.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

8 minutes into the Habs/Panthers game.

3-3 on 10 shots combined.

Bob rocking a 0.000 save percentage...

 

[Flyerfan4life]

What's your source, FF4L?

i read it in multiple facebook link stories.. of course i cant find them now! hahaa

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

8 minutes into the Habs/Panthers game.

3-3 on 10 shots combined.

Bob rocking a 0.000 save percentage...

I hope Torts is watching that game lol
4-3 now on 11 combined shots