Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XC: Stoppage Time Not Required

[Magua]

I remember a lot of people being right from the start. I do believe @Magua correctly crucified the Flahrt hiring, with a bunch of us dismayed that the Wonderteam that was responsible for the Minnesota Wild were reuniting to Wildify the Flyers.

Their drafting record in Minnesota was notably poor across the spectrum: pick volume, depth hits, high ceiling picks. Without a certain 5th round pick, who they were so giddy to take they took Greenway and a Czech league goalie with their preceding picks, it crumbles. That 2018 draft, after Fletcher left and it was only Flahr, was a doozy. Again, not surprising that the more influence those two had on the Flyers scouting, the worse it got.

There really is a certain skill level where you can’t help but question if people have eyes.

You mean Kakko and Lafreniere and Owen Power and and and and aren't better? Stupefying stuff. I thought that Jack was the best prospect since Matthews, with legit top 10 scoring potential, and I lean conservative. Important to emphasize "prospect." I think Dahlin was up there, but defensively are inherently harder to project.

Now, the actually interesting topic is Bedard vs. Hughes. I remember asking Toe this during the summer WJC. We both leaned Hughes still, acknowledging they're on the same tier. At least for me, it's the skating tool.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

First post I saw...

You f***er

Now go find the real post I posted about Hayes before we signed him.

 

[Striiker]

You f***er

Now go find the real post I posted about Hayes before we signed him.

This is the first one I saw from the thread when we traded for his rights

Target acquired. Laughingstock labeled. Prepare for six years of unadulterated hatred.

So this is real news, I guess? Not too surprising, is it.

Fire Fletcher.

Confirmed with Link: - [PHI/WPG] Kevin Hayes UFA rights for a 2019 5th

That logic doesn't work. It's the same as when TK was demoted... he was still great but his scoring and impact suffered because he was playing too little and with inferior players who held him back. This could easily go the same way and it's terrible for the team. This isn’t quite the same...

forums.hfboards.com

 

[wasup]

Their drafting record in Minnesota was notably poor across the spectrum: pick volume, depth hits, high ceiling picks. Without a certain 5th round pick, who they were so giddy to take they took Greenway and a Czech league goalie with their preceding picks, it crumbles. That 2018 draft, after Fletcher left and it was only Flahr, was a doozy. Again, not surprising that the more influence those two had on the Flyers scouting, the worse it got.




You mean Kakko and Lafreniere and Owen Power and and and and aren't better? Stupefying stuff. I thought that Jack was the best prospect since Matthews, with legit top 10 scoring potential, and I lean conservative. Important to emphasize "prospect." I think Dahlin was up there, but defensively are inherently harder to project.

Now, the actually interesting topic is Bedard vs. Hughes. I remember asking Toe this during the summer WJC. We both leaned Hughes still, acknowledging they're on the same tier. At least for me, it's the skating tool.

I've seen Owen Powers play a couple times this year he actually looks decent .

 

[Magua]

I've seen Owen Powers play a couple times this year he actually looks decent .

Power is a fine player -- not to my surprise, despite the draft narratives, he's been excellent offensively and the worst Sabres defensemen in shots and xGA against -- but he's a mile away from a Jack Hughes prospect was my point. I think I had him 7th in that class? Nothing has really changed my mind that Beniers and Luke Hughes were the 2 best prospects. While I had him ranked a handful of spots below Power, the 2nd best defensive prospect in that class might have gone in the 2nd round. Coincidentally, or not, him and Hughes were the 2 youngest players or thereabout.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

This is the first one I saw from the thread when we traded for his rights

Confirmed with Link: - [PHI/WPG] Kevin Hayes UFA rights for a 2019 5th

That logic doesn't work. It's the same as when TK was demoted... he was still great but his scoring and impact suffered because he was playing too little and with inferior players who held him back. This could easily go the same way and it's terrible for the team. This isn’t quite the same...

forums.hfboards.com

@SnS @Stizzle

The three of us deserve medals for our work in that thread.

 

[deadhead]

And people were worried Hayes would take PT from Patrick?

 

[Magua]

Thompson has a hatty and assist 12 minutes into the game.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Power is a fine player -- not to my surprise, despite the draft narratives, he's been excellent offensively and the worst Sabres defensemen in shots and xGA against -- but he's a mile away from a Jack Hughes prospect was my point. I think I had him 7th in that class? Nothing has really changed my mind that Beniers and Luke Hughes were the 2 best prospects. While I had him ranked a handful of spots below Power, the 2nd best defensive prospect in that class might have gone in the 2nd round. Coincidentally, or not, him and Hughes were the 2 youngest players or thereabout.

Another player I wanted, using my exclusive and highly successful method of scouting by who has the coolest names.

 

[flyerslducks]

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Thompson has a hatty and assist 12 minutes into the game.

Yeah, but…

 

[Magua]

Yeah, but…

Rasmoose had a hat trick in a period? Jeez. I’d settle for 3 secondary assists in 20 games.

 

[Rebels57]

The Sabres were already up 2-0 when Tage ripped off the 4 goals in a row. Sheesh! Having fun @sabremike ?

 

[Striiker]

Rasmoose had a hat trick in a period? Jeez. I’d settle for 3 secondary assists in 20 games.

Hoping for Provorov level production is a little too much.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Thompson has a hatty and assist 12 minutes into the game.

Tage Thompson is that next Chara comp people will hang onto for taller forwards.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Rasmoose had a hat trick in a period? Jeez. I’d settle for 3 secondary assists in 20 games.

On an awful team someone still has to score.

That someone won't be a dman on the Flyers though. They're not OFFENSEmen after all. Not their role. Offensing too much would be presumptuous and unseemly.

 

[Magua]

Tage Thompson is that next Chara comp people will hang onto for taller forwards.

Big players take longer.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Big players take longer.

I think he's just 29 and after 11 years of soaking in chili-lime marinade he has emerged wrinkly and new, ready to destroy all comers

 

[BigToe]

Haha

 

[BigToe]

Buffalo is so stacked with young talent

 

[Striiker]

And you losers laughed when AV and Chuck put Morin at forward.

This is what would’ve happened if he stayed healthy.

 

[Nizzle]

And you losers laughed when AV and Chuck put Morin at forward.

This is what would’ve happened if he stayed healthy.

Zamula shall hit the weight room and after bulking enough, he will be moved to wing.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Thompson is halfway to being our team leader in goals for the season.

 

[mja]

And you losers laughed when AV and Chuck put Morin at forward.

This is what would’ve happened if he stayed healthy.

Zamula shall hit the weight room and after bulking enough, he will be moved to wing.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

Big players take longer.

Isaac Ratcliffe long?