Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXIX: More impactful than an REM pop song

[flyerslducks]

I don't think anyone has playoff expectations in Philly.
But I'd prefer they not be roadkill, either.
The odds of winning the lottery are so low (Zona has a lock on the worst record) it's not worth pursuing.

its most defintiely worth pursuing this year dude wtf you mean? Getting a top 5 pick this year is huge for our cap strapped team and shit prospect pool.

 

[Rebels57]

its most defintiely worth pursuing this year dude wtf you mean? Getting a top 5 pick this year is huge for our cap strapped team and shit prospect pool.

Why bother responding to such stupidity?

Why does anyone?

 

[flyerslducks]

Why bother responding to such stupidity?

Why does anyone?

i have been refraining lately, but to say a statement like that....couldn't help it lol

 

[Ghosts Beer]

its most defintiely worth pursuing this year dude wtf you mean? Getting a top 5 pick this year is huge for our cap strapped team and shit prospect pool.

I’d rather the Flyers improve their play & build a new foundation than spend the season trying to lose.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I don't think anyone has playoff expectations in Philly.
But I'd prefer they not be roadkill, either.
The odds of winning the lottery are so low (Zona has a lock on the worst record) it's not worth pursuing.

It’s not something that they’re going to “pursue.” It’s something that’s going to happen through shitty roster building.

It’s unavoidable.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I don't think anyone has playoff expectations in Philly.
But I'd prefer they not be roadkill, either.
The odds of winning the lottery are so low (Zona has a lock on the worst record) it's not worth pursuing.

So stuck in permanent mediocrity, where a poor GM like Fletcher can never have any prayer of getting any better?

No thanks. This team's only prayer is being so bad that they can't completely blow their picks. And that's what they're going to be anyway.

 

[Striiker]

Every time someone unironically mentions the “culture” or “foundation”, you just know they’re gobbling up the team propaganda.

It really doesn’t get more embarrassing than that.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Never mind that they're not going to build any culture or foundation of winning because Fletcher is incapable of anything but losing.

 

[TCTC]

I’d rather the Flyers improve their play & build a new foundation than spend the season trying to lose.

The only problem I have with this is that I don't want Fletcher to be the one to build that foundation.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The narrative around the Sabres' resurgence is going to be unbearable, isn't it? They tanked for a decade!11 Meanwhile Ventura came over in 2021 and Adams in 2020.

They're 19-10-3 since March 1st.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

The only problem I have with this is that I don't want Fletcher to be the one to build that foundation.

Torts is building the new foundation.

Player-wise, they need their mid-20s guys to step up & to weed out the players who don’t. Konecny looks great. So does DeAngelo. That’s a good start.

If the team plays relatively well & shows progress,I have no problem keeping Fletcher. I simply disagree with those who scapegoat him. That said, if the new year rolls around and they are a mess, then I’ll have no problem if they make a change.

 

[TCTC]

Torts is building the new foundation.

Player-wise, they need their mid-20s guys to step up & to weed out the players who don’t. Konecny looks great. So does DeAngelo. That’s a good start.

If the team plays relatively well & shows progress,I have no problem keeping Fletcher. I simply disagree with those who scapegoat him. That said, if the new year rolls around and they are a mess, then I’ll have no problem if they make a change.

Tortorella's building the foundation as a coach, but Fletcher's still building the team. I just think he's reached his expiration date and the sad truth is that only losing can force a change.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Awkward hit by Kucherov injures Barkov.

Edit: came back several minutes later. Seems okay.

 

[freakydallas13]

The narrative around the Sabres' resurgence is going to be unbearable, isn't it? They tanked for a decade!11 Meanwhile Ventura came over in 2021 and Adams in 2020.

They're 19-10-3 since March 1st.

I for one would enjoy finally seeing the Sabres be good again. God knows their fans have waited long enough.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Torts is building the new foundation.

Player-wise, they need their mid-20s guys to step up & to weed out the players who don’t. Konecny looks great. So does DeAngelo. That’s a good start.

If the team plays relatively well & shows progress,I have no problem keeping Fletcher. I simply disagree with those who scapegoat him. That said, if the new year rolls around and they are a mess, then I’ll have no problem if they make a change.

A list of Tortorella's job titles:

Head Coach

Hmm. I don't see "General Manager" in there.

Fletcher isn't being "scapegoated." He is fully to blame for everything wrong with this team.

 

[flyerslducks]

I’d rather the Flyers improve their play & build a new foundation than spend the season trying to lose.

but it depends on the foundation. I don't care about building a weak foundation that will inevitably crumble. Building a foundation with back-to-back top 5 picks is something that can build a more solid foundation, especially with this years draft. Imagine we get adam fantilli. In two years we can have fantilli, cutter, brink, foerester in our top 6 with couts, farabee, tk.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Talent matters more than intangibles.

The most intangible team in the world will never win without the talent to go with it.

 

[flyerslducks]

It’s not something that they’re going to “pursue.” It’s something that’s going to happen through shitty roster building.

It’s unavoidable.

exactly...why fight the inevitable? Add as many picks as you can to these next two drafts and come back in a few years with something to actually build on.

 

[renberg]

So stuck in permanent mediocrity, where a poor GM like Fletcher can never have any prayer of getting any better?

No thanks. This team's only prayer is being so bad that they can't completely blow their picks. And that's what they're going to be anyway.

A team can blow picks at any time. Get the number two overall and end up with Patrick. As we saw in the ‘21 draft, with Fletcher/Flahr any pick at any time has the possibility of being a bust.

 

[FLYguy3911]

@BigToe

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

A team can blow picks at any time. Get the number two overall and end up with Patrick. As we saw in the ‘21 draft, with Fletcher/Flahr any pick at any time has the possibility of being a bust.

The Flyers were the 13th worst team, or whatever it was, that year.

If you’re relying solely on a single selection to fix your franchise then your plan is awful. No one here is asking for that.

 

[BigToe]

@BigToe

I’ve been keeping up with it, Flyman. Fantilli with a hatty tonight too.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

@BigToe

Mother****er. I sent to him a week ago c/o Laval

 

[GKJ]

Dave Hakstol just walked into Denver, has to change goaltenders, outshoots the Avalanche 38-20 and comes out with a 3-2 win.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Dave Hakstol just walked into Denver, has to change goaltenders, outshoots the Avalanche 38-20 and comes out with a 3-2 win.

That was my fault. I bet the live line when Colorado was down 2-1 figuring they would turtle and give up the lead. They gave up the lead but got the GWG.