Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXIX: More impactful than an REM pop song

[freakydallas13]

Wasn't a multiple goal lead, but the Canucks blew another 3rd period lead to lose.

Canucks are officially the only team yet to win a game this season!

 

[Striiker]

Canucks are officially the only team yet to win a game this season!

And yet they have far outplayed the Flyers, who are somehow 3-1.

Their CF% and xGF% are significantly better than ours.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

And yet they have far outplayed the Flyers, who are somehow 3-1.

Their CF% and xGF% are significantly better than ours.

I mean they blow 2-0 leads. The Flyers come back from 0-2 deficits.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Quite the night for the "Should have drafted both Roberstons" cabal.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Quite the night for the "Should have drafted both Roberstons" cabal.

What happened?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What happened?

Scored earlier in the game and then did this in OT:

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Scored earlier in the game and then did this in OT:

We should have drafted them both.

 

[Rebels57]

We should have drafted them both.

So many misses since 2017. Its sad.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

So many misses since 2017. Its sad.

And hilarious.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

And hilarious.

the odds of not even getting a hit by accident should have at least happened by now. .

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Funny how the CF% & xGF% lovers, in full force citing these stats to bash the Flyers’ start, ignore it when it doesn’t fit their narrative:

2021-22:

Gostisbehere: 43.60 CF%. 43.21 xGF%. -0.64% CF% rel. 0.67% xGF% rel.

Ristolainen: 46.08 CF%. 48.65 xGF%. 0.15% CF% rel. 1.88% xGF% rel.

Ristolainen literally better in each category.

But Ghost is great & Risto belongs in the minors.

Accordingly, cannot take anyone citing these stats as proof of anything seriously.

 

[Striiker]

@Beef Invictus Every time.

 

[Embiid]

So many misses since 2017. Its sad.

Cue in Bobby Clarke....

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

It’s a team confidence thing with Vancouver. The Flyers have gone thru this so many times in past years. Last years team especially.
Fragile confidence

 

[VladDrag]

Funny how the CF% & xGF% lovers, in full force citing these stats to bash the Flyers’ start, ignore it when it doesn’t fit their narrative:

2021-22:

Gostisbehere: 43.60 CF%. 43.21 xGF%. -0.64% CF% rel. 0.67% xGF% rel.

Ristolainen: 46.08 CF%. 48.65 xGF%. 0.15% CF% rel. 1.88% xGF% rel.

Ristolainen literally better in each category.

But Ghost is great & Risto belongs in the minors.

Accordingly, cannot take anyone citing these stats as proof of anything seriously.

You know it doesn't work like that, right?

 

[FLYguy3911]

The anti stats crowd is just too lazy to understand the nuances. Or lack IQ.

 

[VladDrag]

We should have drafted them both.

Imagine walking out of 2019 with Boldy and Robertson... Also in this scenario, you don't get Braun. Chuck still could have gone after him a year later.

You could have also moved out of 11 and drafted Caulfield at 14 (or even York), moved up for Brink like he did and still got Robertson.

None of this is hindsight.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Silly me! I must have imagined all the times CF% & xGF% were used to denigrate or puff individual players!

I’ve never read these stats in conjunction with the critique so-and-so got “caved in possession” at all!

 

[Beef Invictus]

You know it doesn't work like that, right?

He does. This has been explained to him numerous times in detail. He chooses not to understand.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Silly me! I must have imagined all the times CF% & xGF% were used to denigrate or puff individual players!

I’ve never read these stats in conjunction with the critique so-and-so got “caved in possession” at all!

How they work, context required, and the reality that comparing directly across different teams without accounting for all that context is useless has all been explained to you very clearly numerous times annually. You are being deliberately dishonest. You know better.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Imagine walking out of 2019 with Boldy and Robertson... Also in this scenario, you don't get Braun. Chuck still could have gone after him a year later.

You could have also moved out of 11 and drafted Caulfield at 14 (or even York), moved up for Brink like he did and still got Robertson.

None of this is hindsight.

I know. Just utterly brutal.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Ben Grimm]

Philadelphia Flyers Hit a Slipstream With Three Wins Early

How about those Flyers? After winning three of their first four games, Philadelphia's setting itself up in a good position heading into a tougher stretch.

thehockeynews.com

 

[deadhead]

I don't think anyone has playoff expectations in Philly.
But I'd prefer they not be roadkill, either.
The odds of winning the lottery are so low (Zona has a lock on the worst record) it's not worth pursuing.