NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Lavy is definitely gone by end of business day tomorrow

 

[GKJ]

Lavy is definitely gone by end of business day tomorrow

Definitely feels like Chris Drury could panic. It’s hard to do what he wants to do and he’s hoping James Dolan stays asleep. Him waking up one day is how he got that job.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Nice nostalgia for me in this Blues/Rangers game with the Blues rocking my teenage rep unis.

We didn't get to keep the blouses back then, but I still do have the socks.

 

[deadhead]

Keep in mind this is a team the Flyers are trying to emulate.

No, Carolina is the team they're trying to emulate.
Fast, deep and aggressive.

St Louis has the same problem as Boston and a few other teams, once you win it, it's tempting to roll it back year after year - then you wake up one year and find out you're old, slow and expensive.

A better question is how the Caps turned it around, they looked like they were ready to free fall.
Some of it is good goalie play -0.43 less goals than expected per game.
Not sure they can sustain this (and they're tight against the Cap) but certaintly a surprise team.

A lot was smart moves:
7/24/22 D Strome (27) 5yr/$5M AVV
6/27/24 Mangiapane (29) for 2025 2nd
6/29/24 Dubois (26) for Kuemper G
7/1/24 Raddysh (26) 1yr/$1M
7/1/24 Duhamie (27) 2yr/$1.85M
McMichael (24) #25-2021
Protas (24) #91-2019
Lapierre #22-2020
Miroshnichenko #20-2022
Now they're still carrying Ovechkin (39), Wilson (30), Eller (35), Dowd (34),
with Backstrom and Milano on LTIR ($13M).

2/28/23 Sandin (24) and 1st rd pick for Erik Gustaffson [8yr/$4.6M salary dump]
7/4/23 Fehervary (25) 3yr/$2.7M
7/1/24 Chychrun (26) for 2026 3rd and Nick Jensen
7/1/24 Roy (29) 6yr/$5.75M
Along with Carlson (35) and TVR (33)

6/23/24 Thompson (27) G for 2024 3rd, 2025 3rd

 

[ponder719]

Definitely feels like Chris Drury could panic. It’s hard to do what he wants to do and he’s hoping James Dolan stays asleep. Him waking up one day is how he got that job.

It sounds to me like they have a problem in the room, and for the low, low price of one (1) 2025 #1st and Filip Chytil, I'm prepared to offer them Scott Laughton and Erik Johnson to serve as a stabilizing presence.

 

[GKJ]

No, Carolina is the team they're trying to emulate.
Fast, deep and aggressive.

St Louis has the same problem as Boston and a few other teams, once you win it, it's tempting to roll it back year after year - then you wake up one year and find out you're old, slow and expensive.

A better question is how the Caps turned it around, they looked like they were ready to free fall.
Some of it is good goalie play -0.43 less goals than expected per game.
Not sure they can sustain this (and they're tight against the Cap) but certaintly a surprise team.

A lot was smart moves:
7/24/22 D Strome (27) 5yr/$5M AVV
6/27/24 Mangiapane (29) for 2025 2nd
6/29/24 Dubois (26) for Kuemper G
7/1/24 Raddysh (26) 1yr/$1M
7/1/24 Duhamie (27) 2yr/$1.85M
McMichael (24) #25-2021
Protas (24) #91-2019
Lapierre #22-2020
Miroshnichenko #202-2022
Now they're still carrying Ovechkin (39), Wilson (30), Eller (35), Dowd (34),
with Backstrom and Milano on LTIR ($13M).

2/28/23 Sandin (24) and 1st rd pick for Erik Gustaffson [8yr/$4.6M salary dump]
7/4/23 Fehervary (25) 3yr/$2.7M
7/1/24 Chychrun (26) for 2026 3rd and Nick Jensen
7/1/24 Roy (29) 6yr/$5.75M
Along with Carlson (35) and TVR (33)

6/23/24 Thompson (27) G for 2024 3rd, 2025 3rd

They have publicly cited the Blues and it’s been reliably reported.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

No, Carolina is the team they're trying to emulate.
Fast, deep and aggressive.

The Sci-Fi/Fantasy thread is here.

There is nothing at the amateur scouting, professional scouting, or asset management levels that I see being remotely similar between the Canes and Flyers.

If they were interested in what the Canes are doing, they would have hired Tulsky instead of Briere. Honestly, I'm still finding it hard to nail down what the plan is for the Flyers is going forward.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

No, Carolina is the team they're trying to emulate.
Fast, deep and aggressive.

St Louis has the same problem as Boston and a few other teams, once you win it, it's tempting to roll it back year after year - then you wake up one year and find out you're old, slow and expensive.

A better question is how the Caps turned it around, they looked like they were ready to free fall.
Some of it is good goalie play -0.43 less goals than expected per game.
Not sure they can sustain this (and they're tight against the Cap) but certaintly a surprise team.

A lot was smart moves:
7/24/22 D Strome (27) 5yr/$5M AVV
6/27/24 Mangiapane (29) for 2025 2nd
6/29/24 Dubois (26) for Kuemper G
7/1/24 Raddysh (26) 1yr/$1M
7/1/24 Duhamie (27) 2yr/$1.85M
McMichael (24) #25-2021
Protas (24) #91-2019
Lapierre #22-2020
Miroshnichenko #202-2022
Now they're still carrying Ovechkin (39), Wilson (30), Eller (35), Dowd (34),
with Backstrom and Milano on LTIR ($13M).

2/28/23 Sandin (24) and 1st rd pick for Erik Gustaffson [8yr/$4.6M salary dump]
7/4/23 Fehervary (25) 3yr/$2.7M
7/1/24 Chychrun (26) for 2026 3rd and Nick Jensen
7/1/24 Roy (29) 6yr/$5.75M
Along with Carlson (35) and TVR (33)

6/23/24 Thompson (27) G for 2024 3rd, 2025 3rd

The man brought up the Blues as a blueprint unprompted as recently as October.

 

[ponder719]

Honestly, I'm still finding it hard to nail down what the plan is for the Flyers is going forward.

That's because they're not using nails, they're throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Honestly, I'm still finding it hard to nail down what the plan is for the Flyers is going forward.

You're not alone. This is Danny B right now

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[renberg]

It sounds to me like they have a problem in the room, and for the low, low price of one (1) 2025 #1st and Filip Chytil, I'm prepared to offer them Scott Laughton and Erik Johnson to serve as a stabilizing presence.

No go on wanting Chytil. He’s one hit from being in Nolan Patrick land.

 

[Cody Webster]

There's no way he actually believes what he wrote.....right? It has to be a bit, right?

 

[deadhead]

They have publicly cited the Blues and it’s been reliably reported.

And they said this fall that Carolina is the team they want to play like.
I think they used St Louis as an example of winning without a lot of high draft picks.

 

[freakydallas13]

No, Carolina is the team they're trying to emulate.

Citation needed.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Keep in mind this is a team the Flyers are trying to emulate.

The model!

 

[JojoTheWhale]

And they said this fall that Carolina is the team they want to play like.
I think they used St Louis as an example of winning without a lot of high draft picks.

....I am confused. You responded to someone talking about contracts. So your answer here is that you quoted him with something completely different than what he was saying?

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Feels like Vancouver is gonna have to choose between Petersson and Miller and I think they choose Miller.

 

[Curufinwe]

Friedman (who admits he's a danger when he has too much time to think) suggested Pettersson for Cozens and Bowen.

 

[GKJ]

Feels like Vancouver is gonna have to choose between Petersson and Miller and I think they choose Miller.

Friedman (who admits he's a danger when he has too much time to think) suggested Pettersson for Cozens and Bowen.

It seems far out there especially after they basically forced him to sign an extension at the trade deadline, but it’s something that seems to just not go away

 

[deadhead]

With a system predicated on constant pressure and speed, Carolina has been a perennial contender under Brind'Amour. Is it a blueprint for the Flyers?

"We're playing basically the same style, checking forward and all that," Tortorella said at morning skate. "I'm not sure how Roddy teaches it, but we want to press, we want to check forward, we want to take chances. I think it looks similar. I don't think we're as fast, I think they're a bit deeper team than we are, but that is going to be the blueprint. As long as I have the opportunity to coach this team, that is going to be the blueprint.

Flyers ‘spanked' by Hurricanes in 3rd period of 4-1 loss

The Flyers endured a brutal third period Wednesday night as the Hurricanes handed them a 4-1 loss at the Wells Fargo Center.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

 

[Larry44]

Feels like Vancouver is gonna have to choose between Petersson and Miller and I think they choose Miller.

Petterson looked like he was going to be a superstar, what happened? Did he have concussions?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

If they’re trying to emulate Carolina, they’re failing spectacularly.

I know what front office of the two I much rather have.

 

[Curufinwe]

Current playoff matchups

1 Was v WC2 Ott
2 NJ v 3 Car

1 Tor v WC1 Bos
2 Fla v 3 TB

1 Min v WC2 Cal
2 Win v 3 Dal

1 VGK v WC1 Van
2 LA v 3 Edm

 

[freakydallas13]

With a system predicated on constant pressure and speed, Carolina has been a perennial contender under Brind'Amour. Is it a blueprint for the Flyers?

"We're playing basically the same style, checking forward and all that," Tortorella said at morning skate. "I'm not sure how Roddy teaches it, but we want to press, we want to check forward, we want to take chances. I think it looks similar. I don't think we're as fast, I think they're a bit deeper team than we are, but that is going to be the blueprint. As long as I have the opportunity to coach this team, that is going to be the blueprint.

Flyers ‘spanked' by Hurricanes in 3rd period of 4-1 loss

The Flyers endured a brutal third period Wednesday night as the Hurricanes handed them a 4-1 loss at the Wells Fargo Center.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

It really upsets you that this team has said multiple times they want to be built like St. Louis, doesn't it.

They obviously don't want to follow in Carolina's footsteps, they hired Briere over the Canes current GM despite having the hire to hire him.