NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[renberg]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

It’s the vampire’s kiss. When you win it, you know that you’re going to get canned in a year or so.

 

[deadhead]

It’s the vampire’s kiss. When you win it, you know that you’re going to get canned in a year or so.

Probably self-selection bias.
Winners tend to turn around bad teams, and often get that team to overachieve.
Next season league has film, adjusts and the team regresses to its "norm."
If it falls below that norm (fluctuations around the mean) the HC gets fired.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Time to fire Torts and hire Monty

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

I'd have to look at a list of the winners, but I feel like it usually goes to the coach of a bubble team that went on to actually win their division, or to the coach of a team whose goalie went absolutely apeshit.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

It’s a perfectly cromulent award for Goalies.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

GM of the Year Award is up there especially in hockey when you have a hard cap which limits yearly roster turnover & even smaller market teams if they’re not rebuilding can/will spend close to the cap ceiling now too.

It basically often follows under a similar guideline as the Adams in essentially what team did better than expected coming into the year as your winner.

 

[Lord Defect]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

Flyers alumni night?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Quinn Hughes holy shit

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

It's basically the overachiever award; granted, the Bruins' bubble was bound to pop at some point regardless of Monty

 

[TCTC]

Time to fire Torts and hire Monty

Would like that, but I doubt NHL teams are opportunistic like that.

 

[DancingPanther]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

The Platinum Glove

 

[Deadpool8812]

Is there a more fraudulent award than the Jack Adams?

The Mark Messier Leadership Award

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Would like that, but I doubt NHL teams are opportunistic like that.

Hell if Torts is going to the front office they might as well do it now rather than later

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

Hell if Torts is going to the front office they might as well do it now rather than later

Agreed. I'd love to see what Monty could do. Also bonus points for being ex-Flyer.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859272863074619424

Back was big red flag that Jackets decided they were not concerned about

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

If the Flyers were smart they'd dump Torts and replace him with Montgomery.

We all know that isn't going to happen though.

I don’t think there is any history of any team firing their coach right after another coach firing to hire that guy.

 

[freakydallas13]

I don’t think there is any history of any team firing their coach right after another coach firing to hire that guy.

Well there should be

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

I don’t think there is any history of any team firing their coach right after another coach firing to hire that guy.

Vegas did it. Bruce Cassidy was fired by the Bruins in June 2022. Eight days later, Vegas fired Pete DeBoer and hired Cassidy.

That was in the offseason, though.

*****

Vegas actually did it when they hired DeBoer, as well.

DeBoer was fired by the Sharks in December 2019 and Vegas hired him in January 2020 after firing Gerard Gallant...

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Anyone having any issues with yahoo fantasy hockey? It’s not showing any opponents for the players playing tonight.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Anyone having any issues with yahoo fantasy hockey? It’s not showing any opponents for the players playing tonight.

Looks like they changed the formatting to me. Opponent is under the player's name now. Harder to notice, unfortunately.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Looks like they changed the formatting to me. Opponent is under the player's name now. Harder to notice, unfortunately.

Yeah I noticed it after. Harder to read with mobile

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Cody Webster]

Happened to my team back in college. Started the game on the PK

 

[deadhead]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859272863074619424

Back was big red flag that Jackets decided they were not concerned about

Bad news for them, good news for the Flyers (we have their 2nd rd pick).

 

[ponder719]

I don’t think there is any history of any team firing their coach right after another coach firing to hire that guy.

The Blues kind of pulled this off in 1994. Mike Keenan wasn't fired, but he loopholed himself out of the Rangers job, and the Blues demoted their head coach, Bob Berry, to an assistant position to hire Keenan as HC and GM.