NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[kudymen]

They couldn’t even update his haircut.

He keeps following the message to his employers: "What you see is what you get"

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Holmgren fired Hextall, then hired CF. Clarke may have influenced the decision, but Holmgren was the decision-maker.

Holmgren could have started a rebuild in 2019 after a bad season and the core aging, instead he doubled down, while CF might have executed it better, the result would have been the same. They lacked the talent for a SC run, got lucky in 2019-20, then slipped back to mediocrity.

CF's problem was he couldn't start a rebuild (no one in the FO was willing to rubber stamp it), and he didn't have the talent to remain a contender. So he muddled through.

The best move he made was to hire Torts, who was willing to say the Emperor had no clothes. That got CF fired, Briere hired, and a commitment to rebuilding.

Just say Chuck is not a good NHL GM. Just say it 1 time.

also didn't the "consulting" firm" essentially hire Torts? I could be wrong I remember reading Chuck didn't really have much a say in that process. In fact sworn it was said he didn't want torts. Maybe others remember.

 

[GKJ]

The Devils is where Chuck was working before he came here

 

[Beef Invictus]

The Devils is where Chuck was working before he came here

I noticed they improved when he was gone.

Hmm. Well, everyone knows correlation is causation!

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

lol

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819820645200306246

 

[Curufinwe]

Still getting paid by the Flyers for another year.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I remember being told he is the same as Ghost.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

I remember being told he is the same as Ghost.

You mean the guy who got waived and no one claimed? Surprised he's not the one signing in the KHL

 

[Beef Invictus]

Sometimes I think that waivers aren't a good method of judging a player

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I remember being told he is the same as Ghost.

At the time he was waived he had zero value. That is a fact. Not one team wanted him.

Sometimes I think that waivers aren't a good method of judging a player

It is at the time they are waived. Not fool proof but a good gauge.

 

[Hanover Fist]

Really wasn’t that upset that they got rid of ghost as much as I was at the cost to get rid of him. On top of that the cost of his replacement factored in was insane.

 

[Beef Invictus]

At the time he was waived he had zero value. That is a fact. Not one team wanted him.


It is at the time they are waived. Not fool proof but a good gauge.

It presumes that GMs don't make errors and everyone has cap space. GMs make errors constantly. And teams often don't have cap space.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It presumes that GMs don't make errors and everyone has cap space. GMs make errors constantly. And teams often don't have cap space.

Please with the cap space cant make a deal nonsense. If a GM wants a player and the other gm wants to move said player they pretty much always find a way. Just accept there was no to very minimal interest in ghost at that time. yes it really is that cut and dry.

no one has said gm's do not make errors. at least I haven't seen anyone say as such.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Please with the cap space cant make a deal nonsense. If a GM wants a player and the other gm wants to move said player they pretty much always find a way. Just accept there was no to very minimal interest in ghost at that time. yes it really is that cut and dry.

no one has said gm's do not make errors. at least I haven't seen anyone say as such.

For waiver pickups? Yeah, scrambling to make a deal can be hard

 

[JojoTheWhale]

A potent power play has never been more important | TSN

The offensive end of the spectrum has become a great differentiator in the modern NHL, Travis Yost writes.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Audible Velvet]

A potent power play has never been more important | TSN

The offensive end of the spectrum has become a great differentiator in the modern NHL, Travis Yost writes.

www.tsn.ca

3.9 goals per 60, when the next lowest is 5.3, yikes.
Tampa over 11, different yikes.
You’re a bum, Rock!

 

[Curufinwe]

Travis stole my bit, but I'm happy for the spectacular futility of the Flyers PP to get as much press as possible.

It's crazy to think if they Flyers played an entire game on the PP they wouldn't quite score 4 goals.

 

[Rebels57]

3.9 goals per 60, when the next lowest is 5.3, yikes.
Tampa over 11, different yikes.
You’re a bum, Rock!

 

[CerpinTaxt]

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Jesus that's the guy running the PP? They flyers know PP doesn't stand for pitiful pugilist right?

 

[Audible Velvet]

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Hey baby, you can coach my power play any time!

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Travis stole my bit, but I'm happy for the spectacular futility of the Flyers PP to get as much press as possible.

It's crazy to think if they Flyers played an entire game on the PP they wouldn't quite score 4 goals.

Honestly, it’d be mid threes or lower since we’d have to rotate the full bench. Maybe THAT would be the proof we need that there is a failed process.

 

[BigToe]

 

[freakydallas13]

I want to see the same breakdown for the Flyers.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I want to see the same breakdown for the Flyers.

Probably had a success rate of 50% from groups 1 and 2 because the only players they took from those groups were Patrick and Michkov.

Edit: Forgot Cutter, so 33%.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Just a reminder. The Flyers process sucks