NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[Curufinwe]

Do you think they took Ginning over Durzi in 2018 because of size?

HEIGHT:
6'4"
193cm
WEIGHT:
206 lbs
93kg

HEIGHT:
6'0"
183cm
WEIGHT:
188 lbs
85kg

 

[TheKingPin]

Everyone going for size when it’s not needed could be exploited all over the place.

 

[BiggE]

Sounds the EJ re-signing is imminent.

And the beat goes on
La ti da dee dee, la ti da dee dumb

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Sounds the EJ re-signing is imminent.

And the beat goes on
La ti da dee dee, la ti da dee dumb

f***ing kill me.

If anything, it gives more credence to the Flyers being worse this year.

 

[ponder719]

Do you think they took Ginning over Durzi in 2018 because of size?

I don't think it was about Durzi at all, but yes, I do think they looked at Ginning and went "He has bigs AND talls! All the measurables! We must have him."

 

[Appleyard]

I don't think it was about Durzi at all, but yes, I do think they looked at Ginning and went "He has bigs AND talls! All the measurables! We must have him."

8/10 of the players taken directly after Ginning are better players... and it was not exactly unpredictable at the time.

 

[mr figgles]

I’m interested in what TK gets or doesn’t get - after that Reinhart news

His agent will point to Rocky’s powerplay as a reason he should get 12 per

 

[Strawberry Fields]

I genuinely don't care what the Flyers do in free agency anymore. I'm way more interested in the moves the Caps make at this point (particularly the ones that impact the AHL).

 

[TheKingPin]

Very interested to see what the TK contract looks like now. It’s for sure in the 8’s. If not for the tax factor I would say he should be at 6 x 8 which is a good deal.

Devils trying to load up. They have a ton of talent at all the positions.

 

[ponder719]

Very interested to see what the TK contract looks like now. It’s for sure in the 8’s. If not for the tax factor I would say he should be at 6 x 8 which is a good deal.

Goddamnit, we're going to be the first team in NHL history to field a roster of 12 RW and no other forwards, aren't we?

 

[mr figgles]

Do you think they took Ginning over Durzi in 2018 because of size?

HEIGHT:
6'4"
193cm
WEIGHT:
206 lbs
93kg

HEIGHT:
6'0"
183cm
WEIGHT:
188 lbs
85kg

We know that’s why they reached on Morin over taking say… Josh Morrissey

 

[TheKingPin]

Goddamnit, we're going to be the first team in NHL history to field a roster of 12 RW and no other forwards, aren't we?

They need to find a Center coach and get to work. Positions are kind of dumb anyway at this point. Faceoffs aren’t as important as originally thought. Just hustle back and then play your game with skill. Makes position based drafting that much more dumb

 

[Appleyard]

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Do you think they took Ginning over Durzi in 2018 because of size?

HEIGHT:
6'4"
193cm
WEIGHT:
206 lbs
93kg

HEIGHT:
6'0"
183cm
WEIGHT:
188 lbs
85kg

Imagine if we gave Durzi that contract he got over the weekend

 

[GKJ]

The Devils sound like they’re in on both Stamkos and Marchessault.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

I want nothing more for Stamkos than to end up in Montreal.

 

[ponder719]

They need to find a Center coach and get to work. Positions are kind of dumb anyway at this point. Faceoffs aren’t as important as originally thought. Just hustle back and then play your game with skill. Makes position based drafting that much more dumb.

If they're going all in on being big and mean, despite all evidence suggesting that stopped working in the mid-'90s, just once I want to see them line up St. Nic at C, and just have him bulldoze the opposing center instead of going for the puck. Won't get us the puck, but it gives us a temporary 5 on 4 in chasing it. (And then when the whistle blows, it takes him off the ice for two minutes, which is another positive.)

 

[Appleyard]

Like... I could actually get behind that strategy. It would be an even better strategy with say... Buium too...

but 2025 is a great top 20 on paper.

If they had say ~8-9 picks in the top 45 of that draft? They would have great odds to get a 1C AND another star and a couple of middle-six or #4-5 pieces too.

And all those guys are within 2 years of Michkov age wise? Then yeh. That would mean likely a ~7-8 year window from 2029 onwards.

But it means taking what you can get for Laughton and Risto as they have some value... and moving TK to try and get one of those potentially crazy good Cs that will go from ~1-10.

 

[ponder719]

Like... I could actually get behind that strategy. It would be an even better strategy with say... Buium too...

but 2025 is a great top 20 on paper.

If they had say ~8-9 picks in the top 45 of that draft? They would have great odds to get a 1C AND another star and a couple of middle-six or #4-5 pieces too.

And all those guys are within 2 years of Michkov age wise? Then yeh. That would mean likely a ~7-8 year window from 2029 onwards.

But it means taking what you can get for Laughton and Risto as they have some value... and moving TK to try and get one of those potentially crazy good Cs that will go from ~1-10.

Is there any way we can get you on the Tulsky path in O&B? Please?

 

[TheKingPin]

Like... I could actually get behind that strategy. It would be an even better strategy with say... Buium too...

but 2025 is a great top 20 on paper.

If they had say ~8-9 picks in the top 45 of that draft? They would have great odds to get a 1C AND another star and a couple of middle-six or #4-5 pieces too.

And all those guys are within 2 years of Michkov age wise? Then yeh. That would mean likely a ~7-8 year window from 2029 onwards.

But it means taking what you can get for Laughton and Risto as they have some value... and moving TK to try and get one of those potentially crazy good Cs that will go from ~1-10.

Buium should have been a godsend with that strategy. Really does seem like the agent was the problem there

 

[Random Forest]

They need to find a Center coach and get to work. Positions are kind of dumb anyway at this point. Faceoffs aren’t as important as originally thought. Just hustle back and then play your game with skill. Makes position based drafting that much more dumb

Agreed. I really want to experiment with Foerster at center. It’s the more valuable position. If it fails, okay, whatever. If it works, you’ve improved your team and increased the value of a young player.

 

[ponder719]

Buium should have been a godsend with that strategy. Really does seem like the agent was the problem there

If the agent was the problem, then Flyers management is the problem. Now, if only we could do something about that...

 

[usahockey22flyers]

If the agent was the problem, then Flyers management is the problem. Now, if only we could do something about that...

Yeah the Flyers need to deal with this agent, he's gonna have more and more players we want in the future. No excuses.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Like... I could actually get behind that strategy. It would be an even better strategy with say... Buium too...

but 2025 is a great top 20 on paper.

If they had say ~8-9 picks in the top 45 of that draft? They would have great odds to get a 1C AND another star and a couple of middle-six or #4-5 pieces too.

And all those guys are within 2 years of Michkov age wise? Then yeh. That would mean likely a ~7-8 year window from 2029 onwards.

But it means taking what you can get for Laughton and Risto as they have some value... and moving TK to try and get one of those potentially crazy good Cs that will go from ~1-10.

If the Flyers get 1st overall and Hagens decides to move to the same agent as Buium, Cutter, etc, do you think they will pass on him for someone else?

 

[ponder719]

If the Flyers get 1st overall and Hagens decides to move to the same agent as Buium, Cutter, etc, do you think they will pass on him for someone else?

No, they'll draft him, he'll refuse to sign, and we'll end up trading him to Ottawa for Yakemchuk and a 2nd.