NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[Kelmitchell2]

Tippett had two RFA seasons left, so add in his 2 RFA seasons already played, and you get $5.2M for ten years v $7.5M for 8 years, in both cases, including 4 RFA seasons.

That's why you just can't compare contracts in a vacuum, big difference between player entering his UFA season negotiating an extension and a player with multiple RFA seasons left.

Exactly what point are you trying to make here? You're moving goal posts to win an arguement against yourself about which contract Is better? One makes 6.25, the other makes 7.5, previous contracts mean absolutely f*** all lol

One is a better overall player than the other, that's the difference

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Tippet f***ing sucks

No he doesn't.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Tippet f***ing sucks

I don’t think he sucks. I think people hate him because he isn’t who he was traded for. That’s not his fault.

 

[DancingPanther]

I don’t think he sucks. I think people hate him because he isn’t who he was traded for. That’s not his fault.

Nah, he sucks. The idea of Tippet sucks, the pursuit of Tippet sucks, the player archetype he is sucks. The Flyers suck

 

[ajgoal]

I’m rounding a bit here, but there are roughly two Popes per square kilometer in the Vatican.

 

[deadhead]

Exactly what point are you trying to make here? You're moving goal posts to win an arguement against yourself about which contract Is better? One makes 6.25, the other makes 7.5, previous contracts mean absolutely f*** all lol

One is a better overall player than the other, that's the difference

My point was if you want to determine if a contract is "reasonable," you have to look at the context.

So Jarvis got $7.5M, which would be a bargain if he was a free agent, but with 4 RFA seasons left, no so much.

Same way Tippett got $6.2M with 2 RFA seasons left, so Flyers got 2 RFA seasons for a total of $3M.

So the comparison isn't $7.5M to $6.2M, but to $5.2M, the cost to the Flyers including the 2 RFA seasons they got at a bargain. Both teams are buying out 4 RFA seasons, Flyers just bought 2 early.

 

[Curufinwe]

Talking about Tippett as if he was a 55 goal scorer is weird when it took him 155 games to get there.

I like the player and never minded the Giroux trade, but he hasn't shown anything close to elite impact on the ice yet.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

My point was if you want to determine if a contract is "reasonable," you have to look at the context.

So Jarvis got $7.5M, which would be a bargain if he was a free agent, but with 4 RFA seasons left, no so much.

Same way Tippett got $6.2M with 2 RFA seasons left, so Flyers got 2 RFA seasons for a total of $3M.

So the comparison isn't $7.5M to $6.2M, but to $5.2M, the cost to the Flyers including the 2 RFA seasons they got at a bargain. Both teams are buying out 4 RFA seasons, Flyers just bought 2 early.

No, the comparison is what they signed for. Trying to rationalize it any other way just tries to complicate a simple process. Yes, the comparison is 7.5 to 6.2 as that is all that matters at the end of the day.

 

[ponder719]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1830976637984481481

Hilferty in shambles rn.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1830976637984481481

Hilferty in shambles rn.

Dude is worth getting paid but being the highest paid player... ehhh? Glad he got paid though.

 

[ponder719]

Dude is worth getting paid but being the highest paid player... ehhh? Glad he got paid though.

He's only the league's highest paid player until McDavid's contract comes up again.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

He's only the league's highest paid player until McDavid's contract comes up again.

I could see the cap being over 90M by that point and it's understandable. He's the best in the world.

 

[Curufinwe]

Torey "NTC" Krug out for the season after ankle surgery.

The Flyers brain trust wanted a team with Ellis, Risto and Krug on the roster.

 

[ponder719]

Torey "NTC" Krug out for the season after ankle surgery.

The Flyers brain trust wanted a team with Ellis, Risto and Krug on the roster.

In their defense, we'd probably have gotten Celebrini had that come to pass. Not intentionally, mind you, but there would have been a silver lining...

 

[Curufinwe]

Eh, they might have been 5th or 6th worst with Krug. Not worst in the league.

 

[deadhead]

Draisaitl will be 30-37 over the life of the deal.
Even with the cap hitting $100M in 4 years, that's still 14% of your cap.

 

[Rebels57]

Sorry Briere, you're gonna have to find a 1C through the Draft. No easy way out. Good thing they are tanking to give themselves the best shot at it!

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Torey "NTC" Krug out for the season after ankle surgery.

The Flyers brain trust wanted a team with Ellis, Risto and Krug on the roster.

Well 2 out of 3 isn’t bad

 

[The Last Red]

Apparently Laine rejected a trade to the Flyers before he was traded to the Canadiens.

 

[renberg]

Apparently Laine rejected a trade to the Flyers before he was traded to the Canadiens.

Source?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Talking about Tippett as if he was a 55 goal scorer is weird when it took him 155 games to get there.

I like the player and never minded the Giroux trade, but he hasn't shown anything close to elite impact on the ice yet.

I don't know if this line of discussion has been a function of needing to defend everything management does to an extreme, or a function of management building such a shitty group of talent since 2018 that it makes basic top-6 level players stand out too much.

 

[ponder719]

Source?

Laine reportedly blocked trade to Flyers

Whoa! Imagine Laine playing for Torts... again!

www.hockeyfeed.com

One of a couple sites that appear to be reporting on this; the original is apparently from a Francophone podcast.

The deal, as reported here, was Laine for Johansen's contract even up, with CBJ planning to put RyJo on LTIR.

 

[Curufinwe]

That would have added $4,700,000 to the Flyers cap this year and next,

Pretty funny that for all the talk about taxes, Laine would rather pay Canadian taxes than play for Torts again.

 

[renberg]

Laine reportedly blocked trade to Flyers

Whoa! Imagine Laine playing for Torts... again!

www.hockeyfeed.com

One of a couple sites that appear to be reporting on this; the original is apparently from a Francophone podcast.

The deal, as reported here, was Laine for Johansen's contract even up, with CBJ planning to put RyJo on LTIR.

Thanks. I hadn’t seen that. Like Curu posted above, I don’t know where the cap space for this would come from.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Thanks. I hadn’t seen that. Like Curu posted above, I don’t know where the cap space for this would come from.

A Farabee trade.