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Beef Invictus said:
Captaincy is irrelevant
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To a degree, yes it is. But it still represents something. And especially for younger players the captain has to be someone to look up to when the going gets tough. Someone who leads by example. Giroux was good at that. Matthews? I don't see it, tbh.
 
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TCTC said:
To a degree, yes it is. But it still represents something. And especially for younger players the captain has to be someone to look up to when the going gets tough. Someone who leads by example. Giroux was good at that. Matthews? I don't see it, tbh.
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I think at this point it chiefly represents a desire to scapegoat those who have no power over their team's strengths and weaknesses.
 
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Sombastate said:
Weren't people saying that Matthews wasn't playing through an injury, basically gave up and he wasn't a leader? 3 months later, captaining his team
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Well, the people that claimed that, would probably also call Lindros a coward for not playing through a concussion
 
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Hmmm something don't win something something filling the net. My brain is a bit foggy but I'm pretty sure it goes back to Homeric times that goals do not equal wins
 
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Beef Invictus said:
Briere would pay for him, then it would go wrong because he tries to send him to the AHL
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Oh, I doubt we'd even cross that first hurdle, but there would almost have to be a second deal involved to properly resolve the situation (preferably moving Fedotov, more likely involving moving Ersson because he'd be the more desirable player), and that, they would almost certainly fail to do. But it's nice to dream about the Flyers being the team to acquire the disgruntled top prospect for once.
 
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ponder719 said:
Oh, I doubt we'd even cross that first hurdle, but there would almost have to be a second deal involved to properly resolve the situation (preferably moving Fedotov, more likely involving moving Ersson because he'd be the more desirable player), and that, they would almost certainly fail to do. But it's nice to dream about the Flyers being the team to acquire the disgruntled top prospect for once.
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Ersson would likely move in an Askarov trade.

I would give this a shot, though.
 
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SolidSnakeUS said:
He'd go to the AHL because Torts said so. He has to make sure Cates and Deslaurier are in the line up.

This team will actively try to piss off as many players as possible.
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If Cates and Deslauriers are blocking Askarov, a goalie, then we have far more fundamental problems than even this board has detected.

GKJ said:
Ersson would likely move in an Askarov trade.

I would give this a shot, though.
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I would assume so, but I was thinking of it more from the perspective of a Kolosov/Askarov swap, or an Askarov/Kolosov pairing in Philly, with both Ersson and Fedotov having to be moved elsewhere to facilitate, hence needing one more goalie move to fully settle things. If it's just "acquire Askarov and let Kolosov go home", though, then yeah, that'd be sufficient by itself.
 
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ponder719 said:
If Cates and Deslauriers are blocking Askarov, a goalie, then we have far more fundamental problems than even this board has detected.
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That's kind of what I mean though. The way this team functions is completely f***ed. f***ed priorities and f***ing lame excuses to go with them. I used it as an extreme example to show that there really is nothing they won't do to go further down the barrel.
 
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ponder719 said:
If Cates and Deslauriers are blocking Askarov, a goalie, then we have far more fundamental problems than even this board has detected.



I would assume so, but I was thinking of it more from the perspective of a Kolosov/Askarov swap, or an Askarov/Kolosov pairing in Philly, with both Ersson and Fedotov having to be moved elsewhere to facilitate, hence needing one more goalie move to fully settle things. If it's just "acquire Askarov and let Kolosov go home", though, then yeah, that'd be sufficient by itself.
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You can’t move both Ersson and Fedotov, but you can move Ersson and Kolosov.

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How about Fedotov going instead of Ersson?
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Won’t work with their cap, and it would be bad form.
 
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renberg said:
How about Fedotov going instead of Ersson?
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Nashville has about $3M in cap space and 2 RFAs to come to terms with. Fedotov makes more than twice what Ersson does, which would be a significant obstacle here, unless it's a bigger deal with more salary coming back to Philly (and then we run into our own cap issues; the numbers would have to be very precise to make it all work.)
 
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An Askarov trade would be a very smart thing to do.

Unless they promised Fedotov a certain amount of playing time, which would be asinine for a guy that was shovelling snow for a year.
 
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FlyerNutter said:
An Askarov trade would be a very smart thing to do.

Unless they promised Fedotov a certain amount of playing time, which would be asinine for a guy that was shovelling snow for a year.
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I mean, you're still probably moving Ersson out in either an Askarov trade or a concurrent facilitating trade, so Fedotov isn't going to need to go to Allentown or anything like that.
 
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FlyerNutter said:
An Askarov trade would be a very smart thing to do.

Unless they promised Fedotov a certain amount of playing time, which would be asinine for a guy that was shovelling snow for a year.
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The thing is, I'd love this, but it seems that the Preds will more than likely just run with Wedgewood as the backup, especially since it seems like they are going for it for the next couple years at least.
 
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ponder719 said:
I mean, you're still probably moving Ersson out in either an Askarov trade or a concurrent facilitating trade, so Fedotov isn't going to need to go to Allentown or anything like that.
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I think you can keep Ersson in the fold. I would anyway. No reason to not plan on splitting time with a young tandem.

Askarov just makes a lot of sense imo. I’d actually get excited over a move like that. I love goaltending on just a personal level, but hope they don’t undersell the value of the position. Especially if it’s going to be a mid tier team at best in terms of overall talent.
 
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