Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CI: Friday, March 8 at 3 p.m. ET. (TV info in OP)

Who will win the 2024 Stanley Cup? In this the season of giving, you have two options.

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Strawberry Fields

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kudymen

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Tanner Jeannot was traded for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th last year. NHL GMs can't help themselves. :laugh:

The only stupider GMs are the ones who can't bear to part with the Dowds and Jeannots for these offers. We know who.

And yet in this very league there was a guy who managed to fail trading JvR under the most hilarious circumstances ever


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Strawberry Fields

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I think Dowd is a fine player in his role and Caps fans seem to really like him; I obviously wouldn't trade a first myself for him. It's all speculation but the Caps have an odd mixed history recently of letting guys go when necessary (Orlov, Hathaway, Gus) while giving others unnecessary retirement contracts (Jensen, sort of TVR, Backstrom, maybe Wilson?) and there's not a whole lot in their cupboards as they prepare to completely crash back into the early 2000s, so you'd think they'd like to make that trade if it's offered.
 

Beef Invictus

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The member of the media who exclaimed that Quebec fans want an NHL team seemed to be relaying if not echoing the sentiment. Bettman mentioned about a half dozen US cities though nothing substantial in terms of ownership groups. I interpreted his follow up as to no serious groups from Quebec had a proposal. Cincinnati as one of two WHA cities (also Birmingham) left outside of the 1979 merger. But Omaha is an interesting option if looking for an untapped major sports market, a good college program for starters.



I've been wondering if a Utah expansion ends up seeing the Yotes moved.
 
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Curufinwe

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The last thing the NHL; wants is more Canadian teams. America is where the big money is, and there are only 25 US based teams.
 

MiamiScreamingEagles

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I've been wondering if a Utah expansion ends up seeing the Yotes moved.
In an oddly twisted configuration, that is be reminiscent of the Devils relocating to Nashville, the height of that during the 1995 playoffs. Nashville offered million upon millions to any franchise. The Devils terminated their lease in New Jersey after winning the Cup, used it to their advantage.
 

MiamiScreamingEagles

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In an uncreative league obsessed with nepo-hires and retreads, the whole Quebec City obsession has always cracked me up.
The volley by the media member was more demonstrative than inquisitive. But neither side offered much in substance about a Quebec bid and that was a telltale sign at least in that presser.
 

Beef Invictus

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In an oddly twisted configuration, that is be reminiscent of the Devils relocating to Nashville, the height of that during the 1995 playoffs. Nashville offered million upon millions to any franchise. The Devils terminated their lease in New Jersey after winning the Cup, used it to their advantage.

The thing I can't untangle is whenever I try to figure out what went wrong in Quebec, it never seems like the team was hurting for money (though I'm pretty sure I've seen vigorous arguments both ways on that). I see very mixed reviews on the owner and the desire of anyone to deal with him. But it's struck me as odd that a profitable location has been ignored for this long. Maybe there are French language sources that clarify it all and I'd rather peel my face than sort through all that.

I assume some bean counters have determined the potential gain from expanding TV markets in the US is worth more than the gate revenue and coverage of a Quebec team. But we are also surely at a point where there isn't much more TV money to be gained at this point. What markets are neglected? A Utah team potentially replaces Arizona down there. Making the Coyotes financially stable by putting them in Quebec would mean they require less revenue sharing and should boost the league overall. It's a moneypit, and Salt Lake City could possibly go the same way; at least eliminate one of the money pits.
 
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MiamiScreamingEagles

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The thing I can't untangle is whenever I try to figure out what went wrong in Quebec, it never seems like the team was hurting for money (though I'm pretty sure I've seen vigorous arguments both ways on that). I see very mixed reviews on the owner and the desire of anyone to deal with him. But it's struck me as odd that a profitable location has been ignored for this long. Maybe there are French language sources that clarify it all and I'd rather peel my face than sort through all that.

I assume some bean counters have determined the potential gain from expanding TV markets in the US is worth more than the gate revenue and coverage of a Quebec team. But we are also surely at a point where there isn't much more TV money to be gained at this point. What markets are neglected? A Utah team potentially replaces Arizona down there. Making the Coyotes financially stable by putting them in Quebec would mean they require less revenue sharing and should boost the league overall. It's a moneypit, and Salt Lake City could possibly go the same way; at least eliminate one of the money pits.
If you mean the initial incarnation of a Quebec City team and what went wrong, the Nuggets ownership wanted to bring a team to Denver and what was a new building in-waiting. McNichols wasn't old in any sense of the word but it was outdated for pro standards. I generally liked McNichols because it had an older vibe to it but there were limits to how much renovations could hide the blemishes. The Nordiques had rumored to be relocated back in the 1980s and fans threatened to boycott Carling (ownership). It is a hazy memory but I think Seattle was the lead prospect at the time. That is when Marcel Aubut stepped in to save the team from relocating. However, years later, he was the lead voice behind the sale when local government officials refused public funding for a new arena.
 

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If you mean the initial incarnation of a Quebec City team and what went wrong, the Nuggets ownership wanted to bring a team to Denver and what was a new building in-waiting. McNichols wasn't old in any sense of the word but it was outdated for pro standards. I generally liked McNichols because it had an older vibe to it but there were limits to how much renovations could hide the blemishes. The Nordiques had rumored to be relocated back in the 1980s and fans threatened to boycott Carling (ownership). It is a hazy memory but I think Seattle was the lead prospect at the time. That is when Marcel Aubut stepped in to save the team from relocating. However, years later, he was the lead voice behind the sale when local government officials refused public funding for a new arena.

If the NHL puts another team in Atlanta before Quebec I'm going to be baffled. There's no way propping up yet another failing Atlanta team for the 97th time in league history makes more sense. Having a team in a TV market doesn't matter if nobody in the market watches and you cancel out any gains sharing funds to keep the thing from sinking.
 

MiamiScreamingEagles

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If the NHL puts another team in Atlanta before Quebec I'm going to be baffled. There's no way propping up yet another failing Atlanta team for the 97th time in league history makes more sense. Having a team in a TV market doesn't matter if nobody in the market watches and you cancel out any gains sharing funds to keep the thing from sinking.
The city of St. Louis has rescinded its offer to have you on the "Bring the NFL Back" campaign,

Fun fact about the Omni: it was the only building I remember where the dressing room and showers were separated. Down the corridor you went.
 
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