Miscellaneous NHL Discussion C: The centenarian of threads

[BillDineen]

Bedard has four points in a game which puts him in the company of Morgan Frost.

His two assists were primary. All of Frost's would have been meaningless secondaries.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Trading hart to oilers should be the easiest HOMERUN in flyers history. Too bad we are run by buffoons.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Highly doubt a goalie, even a good goalie like Hart, would bring back a haul. I’d love to be surprised though

 

[bennysflyers16]

Highly doubt a goalie, even a good goalie like Hart, would bring back a haul. I’d love to be surprised though

Situational though, Oilers have to panic.

Hart, Walker
For
Bouchard , 1st , 2nd

 

[FlyTimmo]

Situational though, Oilers have to panic.

Hart, Walker
For
Bouchard , 1st , 2nd

Just give me 2 unprotected firsts

 

[Curufinwe]

Situational though, Oilers have to panic.

Hart, Walker
For
Bouchard , 1st , 2nd

They are capped out

 

[FlyerNutter]

Biggest benefit to trading Hart is the improvement to Flyer draft position.

The return is a secondary bonus, imo anyway.

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

So Edmonton coaches have to be gone today right?

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Situational though, Oilers have to panic.

Hart, Walker
For
Bouchard , 1st , 2nd

I’d obviously do this trade in a heartbeat but I’d have to think a young Dman already playing big minutes with major offensive upside is worth more than Hart himself. I think with more emphasis on system play and more reliance on goalie tandems, goalies aren’t that valuable

 

[GKJ]

I know he’s supposed to be a streaky goalie but jeez. Is it the yips? Hard to believe he’s suddenly not even an AHL level goalie.

Sean Burke talked about this before when he ended up in the AHL briefly before the Kings basically asked the Lightning to put him on recall waivers, about how the AHL can actually be harder for veteran goalies because they’re not used to the dip in quality of play. It’s not as simple as saying it’s a lesser league. It’s developmental. Players aren’t always playing the same way, they’re not in the positions they expect, and they’re taking shots from angles they're supposed to anticipate. He said he was giving up what he felt were soft goals and the coaches were telling him not to worry because he was still playing correct angles, the shots were just not ones he would see in the NHL.

His save percentage went from .856 in the AHL to .901 when recalled, and the Kings were still the third worst team in the league.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The Oilers are a mess. This goes well beyond who is playing goal. Something has to give there I would think

 

[BernieParent]

They are capped out

I was just going to point out that cap has to come back, either Campbell (ugh!) or Skinner + Kulak or Ceci.

 

[Curufinwe]

Takes me back to the 13-14 Flyers starting out 3-9, but still making the playoffs.

That was after G hurt his hand on the golf club/tree in the summer, and he didn't score a goal until game 16 against the Oilers.

 

[Rebels57]

The Oilers will fire that weird 12 year old looking Woodcroft. Assuming they don't replace him with a total boob, they will turn it around and cruise into the playoffs.

 

[Curufinwe]

I don't think a new coach will fix their goalie problem.

 

[kudymen]

I would laugh at them having their cap situation crippled by stuff like 9.5M Nurse, but then I remember Charles Fletchman did some stuff here.

 

[Rebels57]

I don't think a new coach will fix their goalie problem.

They'll pick someone up i'm sure.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I don't think a new coach will fix their goalie problem.

The shittiest thing is that changing the whole dynamic of their forwards and D-men are the hardest solutions. However, in the short term to deal with those issues, I think changing out goalies and coaches might be the bandaid they need. They are tied for 2nd to last in GF, and that says something considering some of their players.

Either way, their top two lines are basically doing nothing right now and they are generally healthy too, for once.

 

[CutOnDime97]

They have more than a goalie problem

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

They have more than a goalie problem

They 100% need depth, but it doesn't explain why the top 2 lines are basically doing nothing.

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

The Oilers will fire that weird 12 year old looking Woodcroft. Assuming they don't replace him with a total boob, they will turn it around and cruise into the playoffs.

Incoming Daryl Sutter? lol

 

[landsbergfan]

Have I got the perfect, big, tough, playoff-ready, right handed defenseman for you! Just have to fix the mysterious injury first. They wouldn’t even have to dress Reaves!

 

[Curufinwe]

They 100% need depth, but it doesn't explain why the top 2 lines are basically doing nothing.

McDavid is injured, but there's more than that going on

I'm not an Oilers hater, but this a very entertaining situation.

 

[Curufinwe]

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

McDavid is injured, but there's more than that going on

I'm not an Oilers hater, but this a very entertaining situation.

Oh yeah, McDavid came back pretty early from injury right? Jesus...