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Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24

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RossiSaveUs said:
Inject me with this lineup next season:

Kaprizov-Yurov-Zuccarello
Boldy-Rossi-Mojo?:(
Foligno-Ek-Hartman


Brodin-Faber
Mids-Spurgeon
Hunt-

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AKL said:
This is the "regression" to the "mean". I've always expected them to finish just high enough to lose in the first round and not get a true impact player in the draft.

But if Faber really can turn into an all situations top D and Rossi really can turn into a top line center and Wallstedt is the real deal goaliefield, this team may have the makings of a team that loses in the 2nd or even 3rd round once in a while.
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By God...let it be true!
 
Hartman with 2 points in last 10 games. Rossi is here to stay and Evason is gone so we hopefully won’t see Hartman back at 1C ever again. I’ve never loved him in the bottom 6 because he takes too many penalties. If he’s not playing with 97 & 36, where do we see him fitting in longterm?
 
MNRube said:
Hartman with 2 points in last 10 games. Rossi is here to stay and Evason is gone so we hopefully won’t see Hartman back at 1C ever again. I’ve never loved him in the bottom 6 because he takes too many penalties. If he’s not playing with 97 & 36, where do we see him fitting in longterm?
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Bottom six wing, and an injury fill in when guys in the top six get injured
 
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I thought Hartman was less effective than i thought he would be as a 4th liner, but I'll give him a bit of time to get used to playing with Duhaime and Dewar. On paper, that should be a good 4th. Speed, physicality, and a bit of offensive pop.

I see him the same as @AKL does. Decent bottom six RW with the proven ability to fill in at C. He does take the odd bad penalty, but I like having a couple of nasty players on the team, as long as they stay disciplined.
 
2025-26

Khusnutdinov?-Yurov-Boldy
Kaprizov-Rossi-Zuccarello
Ohgren?-Ek-Hartman
Foligno-Dewar?-Gaudreau

That would be a strong lineup, depending on hat you do with the defense
 
57special said:
I thought Hartman was less effective than i thought he would be as a 4th liner, but I'll give him a bit of time to get used to playing with Duhaime and Dewar. On paper, that should be a good 4th. Speed, physicality, and a bit of offensive pop.

I see him the same as @AKL does. Decent bottom six RW with the proven ability to fill in at C. He does take the odd bad penalty, but I like having a couple of nasty players on the team, as long as they stay disciplined.
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Hartman made a sneaky nice pass through the neutral zone last night to hit Dewar in stride into the Ozone that you could tell caught both Dewar and Duhaime by surprise. Plays like that could go a long way in building up our 4th liners into maybe something more as they get more and more comfortable together. A little bit of time there could pay big dividends.
 
Hartman's position is his own doing, with all the nonsense and dirty play. As Russo said, now he has to start on the bottom and impress the new coach if he wants to climb the lineup and play more minutes.
 
Webster said:
Hartman's position is his own doing, with all the nonsense and dirty play. As Russo said, now he has to start on the bottom and impress the new coach if he wants to climb the lineup and play more minutes.
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He will be an expensive 4th liner ($4 million AAV) for the next 3 seasons if he doesn't improve his play.
 
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MuckOG said:
He will be an expensive 4th liner ($4 million AAV) for the next 3 seasons if he doesn't improve his play.
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I'm thinking we will have at least one expensive 4th liner no matter what, assuming some of our rookies start making a case for a spot in top 9.

Remains to be seen if it's going to be Foligno, Hartman or both.
 
Wasted Talent said:
I'm thinking we will have at least one expensive 4th liner no matter what, assuming some of our rookies start making a case for a spot in top 9.

Remains to be seen if it's going to be Foligno, Hartman or both.
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Gaudreau too, although he's not 4M expensive, 2.1M is still expensive for a fourth line

We may end up with the most expensive fourth line in NHL history if all of them are there

Kaprizov-Rossi-Khusnutdinov
Heidt-Yurov-Boldy
Ohgren-Ek-?
Foligno-Gaudreau-Hartman
 
AKL said:
Gaudreau too, although he's not 4M expensive, 2.1M is still expensive for a fourth line

We may end up with the most expensive fourth line in NHL history if all of them are there

Kaprizov-Rossi-Khusnutdinov
Heidt-Yurov-Boldy
Ohgren-Ek-?
Foligno-Gaudreau-Hartman
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Son of a #@$%!

Stupidly expensive 4th line.

Webster said:
Hartman's position is his own doing, with all the nonsense and dirty play. As Russo said, now he has to start on the bottom and impress the new coach if he wants to climb the lineup and play more minutes.
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He won't have much room to climb, since Rossi and Ek our essentially our #1 and #2 now. Hartman shouldn't sniff the top line again.
 
AKL said:
2025-26

Khusnutdinov?-Yurov-Boldy
Kaprizov-Rossi-Zuccarello
Ohgren?-Ek-Hartman
Foligno-Dewar?-Gaudreau

That would be a strong lineup, depending on hat you do with the defense
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Assuming a $92M cap; they’ll have $34.7M for Rossi, Wallstedt, Faber, Dewar, LD2, LD3, RD3, and extra skaters.

Wallstedt should be a cheap bridge, but no clue where Guerin is gonna go on Faber or Rossi’s contracts. They really need some of the defense prospects to make the jump soon, but I still think that’s the #1 position to target in FA.
 
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Spurgeon said:
Assuming a $92M cap; they’ll have $34.7M for Rossi, Wallstedt, Faber, Dewar, LD2, LD3, RD3, and extra skaters.

Wallstedt should be a cheap bridge, but no clue where Guerin is gonna go on Faber or Rossi’s contracts. They really need some of the defense prospects to make the jump soon, but I still think that’s the #1 position to target in FA.
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I like Rossi & Faber with as much term as possible at around $5M. Some risk for both sides.

Agree on blueline upgrade too. Let’s get Spurgeon a real partner for his golden years.
 
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MNRube said:
I like Rossi & Faber with as much term as possible at around $5M. Some risk for both sides.

Agree on blueline upgrade too. Let’s get Spurgeon a real partner for his golden years.
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Rossi is playing 1C and on pace for 53 points without meaningful PP time, Faber is playing 23+ minutes per night on the 1st pair and top PK, both have another season before their ELCs end, and the cap is jumping up significantly. 5m probably isn't even a real starting point for negotiating a bridge deal, much less anything with term.
 
Kind of crazy that with $14M+ in dead cap, we still might be in a position to go after a solid UFA ($4-$6 million range:

Kaprizov - Rossi - Zuccarello
Johansson - Yurov (ELC) - Boldy
Foligno - Eriksson Ek - Hartman
ELC (~$900k) - Dewar (?) - Gaudreau
13th F (~$750k)

Brodin - Faber
Middleton - Spurgeon
ELC (~$900k) - ?
Merrill

Gustavsson
Wallstedt

Let the 3 Iowa LD's (Lambos, ROR, Hunt) battle for the 3rd pair spot.

~$8M in space with only Dewar and a RD to sign. Dewar shouldn't get much more than ~$1.5M at most, so ~$6.5M for a defenseman should/could be a pretty legit player.
 
AKL said:
2025-26

Khusnutdinov?-Yurov-Boldy
Kaprizov-Rossi-Zuccarello
Ohgren?-Ek-Hartman
Foligno-Dewar?-Gaudreau

That would be a strong lineup, depending on hat you do with the defense
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And what you do with all the new loot

Dr Jan Itor said:
Kind of crazy that with $14M+ in dead cap, we still might be in a position to go after a solid UFA ($4-$6 million range:

Kaprizov - Rossi - Zuccarello
Johansson - Yurov (ELC) - Boldy
Foligno - Eriksson Ek - Hartman
ELC (~$900k) - Dewar (?) - Gaudreau
13th F (~$750k)

Brodin - Faber
Middleton - Spurgeon
ELC (~$900k) - ?
Merrill

Gustavsson
Wallstedt

Let the 3 Iowa LD's (Lambos, ROR, Hunt) battle for the 3rd pair spot.

~$8M in space with only Dewar and a RD to sign. Dewar shouldn't get much more than ~$1.5M at most, so ~$6.5M for a defenseman should/could be a pretty legit player.
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The Yurov/Rossi/Faver development this year has gone better than I could have ever imagined.
 
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My thoughts, if we want to compete in the playoffs we will need either a #5 capable of carrying a pairing, or two #6 D men, the bottom pair of Goligoski-Merrill currently is not playoff capable.

I had some hopes that one or more of those spots could feasibly go to a late season rookie, but not as confident that any of our guys are going to be capable of that role by this season and I would want an established guy next to them anyway.

I think we will have to explore the depth D man market at some point this year, need cap space accrual first though.
 
They've to do something at defense for sure in near future. There's not enough quality at the blueline for a serious playoff run.
 
If Hunt keeps going off in Iowa will he get another shot? He has decent size, can skate, and handle the puck. Not to sure about his defensive positioning and play... it's decent, at least. I think he just needs to build up his confidence, and stay healthy, of course. He has had the worst luck in that regard.

Very few teams have a good 3rd pairing.
 
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