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Edmonton up next, we are going to get torched, probably our only chance is if they stack McDavid and Draisaitl and we reunite Brodin - Faber with JEE to shadow them. For some reason they do always seem to do this against us, but if they do literally anything else, we will get smashed.
 
Ovechkid08 said:
Edmonton up next, we are going to get torched, probably our only chance is if they stack McDavid and Draisaitl and we reunite Brodin - Faber with JEE to shadow them. For some reason they do always seem to do this against us, but if they do literally anything else, we will get smashed.
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60-65 shots on goal incoming.....

Seriously though, that's a game where it may be best to fall over and play dead.
 
Oh and this is a good reminder that Matt Boldy is one of the best suppression wingers in the league too. His absence cannot be understated.
 
Ovechkid08 said:
Oh and this is a good reminder that Matt Boldy is one of the best suppression wingers in the league too. His absence cannot be understated.
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Based on what? He was terrible in the Playoffs and against FLA. His 5v5 overall stats are average. He doesn't PK.
 
Wabit said:
Based on what? He was terrible in the Playoffs and against FLA. His 5v5 overall stats are average. He doesn't PK.
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Well you certainly aren't wrong that the playoffs left you wanting more, but he does have a track record as one of the top xGA% leaders and has received some national and media recognition for it. He has a very good defensive stick and generally drives possessions massively and has been noted for it since his pre-USNTDP days.

"The 22-year-old budding star received a fifth-place Selke vote for his defensive play this season. Speaking of that, Boldy wasn't only the Wild's best defensive forward last season, but Evolving-Hockey's defensive goals above replacement rated him as the league's 10th best defensive forward."


And also

hockeywilderness.com

How the Wild Secured One Of Hockey's Best Contracts

In the opening minute of The Wolf of Wall Street, infamous white-collar criminal Jordan Belfort recounts, “The year I turned 26, I made 49 million dollars. Which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week.” Perhaps Matt Boldy feels the same about his own $49 million contrac...
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This is from before he played with JEE, and playoffs so you are right, that is not as current, but I tend to lean towards him just needing the adjustment time that all young players need. He grades out extremely strong when you consider his age, he really is a complete game beast when he is playing well.
 
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Yeah I mean Boldy is our best player we’re always gonna feel it when he’s out
 
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Ovechkid08 said:
Well you certainly aren't wrong that the playoffs left you wanting more, but he does have a track record as one of the top xGA% leaders and has received some national and media recognition for it. He has a very good defensive stick and generally drives possessions massively and has been noted for it since his pre-USNTDP days.

"The 22-year-old budding star received a fifth-place Selke vote for his defensive play this season. Speaking of that, Boldy wasn't only the Wild's best defensive forward last season, but Evolving-Hockey's defensive goals above replacement rated him as the league's 10th best defensive forward."


And also

hockeywilderness.com

How the Wild Secured One Of Hockey's Best Contracts

In the opening minute of The Wolf of Wall Street, infamous white-collar criminal Jordan Belfort recounts, “The year I turned 26, I made 49 million dollars. Which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week.” Perhaps Matt Boldy feels the same about his own $49 million contrac...
hockeywilderness.com hockeywilderness.com

This is from before he played with JEE, and playoffs so you are right, that is not as current, but I tend to lean towards him just needing the adjustment time that all young players need. He grades out extremely strong when you consider his age, he really is a complete game beast when he is playing well.
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That article loses all credibility when it says Boldy was MN's best defensive FWD when JEE is on the team. Those look like the same cherry picked stats that make Addison the team's best d-man (and player overall). I can use those same stats and say Addison it the team's best d-man this year (lowest xga/60, highest xGF% 5v5).

Getting a random Selkie vote doesn't mean much to me, when in years past the defensive stalwarts of Zucker and Nino picked up a random vote too.

MarJo/JEE have been better (xga, xgf%) without him than with him so far this year. Boldy is missed, for sure, but he's not a defensive stalwart by any means.
 
Wabit said:
That article loses all credibility when it says Boldy was MN's best defensive FWD when JEE is on the team. Those look like the same cherry picked stats that make Addison the team's best d-man (and player overall). I can use those same stats and say Addison it the team's best d-man this year (lowest xga/60, highest xGF% 5v5).

Getting a random Selkie vote doesn't mean much to me, when in years past the defensive stalwarts of Zucker and Nino picked up a random vote too.

MarJo/JEE have been better (xga, xgf%) without him than with him so far this year. Boldy is missed, for sure, but he's not a defensive stalwart by any means.
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It was a cumulative stat referenced, like gamescore if you are familiar to that, JEE missed more time that season and acquired less overall defensive value.

Agree to disagree I suppose, I think he is already excellent defensively.
 
Wabit said:
That article loses all credibility when it says Boldy was MN's best defensive FWD when JEE is on the team. Those look like the same cherry picked stats that make Addison the team's best d-man (and player overall). I can use those same stats and say Addison it the team's best d-man this year (lowest xga/60, highest xGF% 5v5).

Getting a random Selkie vote doesn't mean much to me, when in years past the defensive stalwarts of Zucker and Nino picked up a random vote too.

MarJo/JEE have been better (xga, xgf%) without him than with him so far this year. Boldy is missed, for sure, but he's not a defensive stalwart by any means.
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Your cherry picked stats are better?
 
AKL said:
Your cherry picked stats are better?
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Actually they are the same stats used for Boldy. 5v5 and all situations xgf%, xga, xga/60. The same stats used for years saying Spurgeon is elite.
 
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Wild currently have the 3rd worst xGF% in the league.

Only Canucks and Sharks are worse.
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Yeah it’s becoming a concern, we’re 5 games in and have won that xG battle in one game. Which was Montreal. Sure, missing Boldy and Spurgeon hurt but this team is nowhere close. We’re not making the playoffs at this rate. Not even close.
 
Had to keep telling myself we are missing 2/5 best players. on one hand it’s great to see Rossi, Faber & Gus play so well (and Haight, Yurov, Peart etc outside the NHL) but on the the other hand the extensions bother the crap out of me still. At least w/ Fiala trade we got back a couple nice assets - these extensions are just infuriating.
 
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