Has there been any news on Yurov and if he actually signed for next season? Pretty strange what’s gone on
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The only news is that he's apparently not signing anything until the season is over, and his team starts the second round of the playoffs on Sunday
Could you imagine the excitement if it breaks that he’s coming over and signs? Holy f*** it would be electric
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I can’t tell if this is sarcasm for Zucc or for Stramel lol. Or maybe I missed the boat completely
None of those players are as good as Kaprizov and probably Boldy too.
That team also won a couple of playoff series.
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Dr Jan Itor
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Yes, but isn’t that proof that you build through the draft? The Wild short circuited the actual retool by signing Parise and Suter and later the Pominville trade. But the base was always through the draft. They just jumped the gun too early with other things.
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I think they jumped the gun too early, as well, but I have the benefit of hindsight. The fact of the matter is that most off-seasons don't have great UFA classes, so when there's a strong one, and both of the top UFAs want to sign with your team, you almost have to strike while the iron's hot. I wish they could have waited 2 more years, but they didn't know when the next chance like that would come, if ever.
I'll say, in 2012, when nobody had the benefit of hindsight, the only person I remember being upset about the signings was State of Hockey.
Dr Jan Itor
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I don't really think it's proof of anything. Cup winners have talented players, that's the bottom line. However they're acquired.
We're clearly not going to be picking in the top 3, at least while Kaprizov is here. We have too many good players. So if the move is to wait out Kaprizov's decision and go from there, I guess that's a viable option.
But just have no illusions in the meantime of playoff success or bottoming out.
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Dr Jan Itor
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None of those players being as good as Kaprizov or Boldy is kind of a reason that it's not really a comparable situation.
Spurgeon
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Huge news, wonder if it just ended up being a bruised/swollen knee. They should be able to weather the storm with this weak upcoming schedule hopefully (if they realistically want to be a playoff team, that has to be the mentality).
I know playoffs are still a long shot, but I’m never going to cheer for a late season tank. Team goes on a run at the end of the season with hot goalies & a new shiny prospect outperforming expectations, ya never know. Even if we only get 2 playoff games, those are the best live sporting events I get to go to during the entire year anyways.
There is no tank , it’s dead. All we can hope for now is a miracle because we aren’t getting a top 10 draft pick
Expectations were also different then. Making the playoffs wasn’t a regular thing prior to that time.
I just think that getting Konecny isn’t a move we should be doing right now. Give the likes of Yurov, Ohgren, Heidt, etc a chance and then supplement positions of need. We are not a playoff contender yet. Konecny doesn’t solve the issues on defense or in goal.
So why would we follow the same plan? Right now, we have a shortage of talent because Fletcher traded so many picks away trying to ram rod this team into a playoff contender (and failing). There was no second wave of young talent to supplement the aging group of Granlund/Coyle/Nino/etc.
Dr Jan Itor
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So let me ask you, how many more picks (let's say 1st and 2nd round) do we have to *hit on* before moving into phase 2? Is this 2 more perfect 1st/2nd round drafts? 3 more?
*hit on meaning: legit top 6F/top 4D players
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You can make a run with Kaprizov / Boldy / Ek / Faber as long as the GM fills out the rest of the roster well and goaltending is good. Consider me skeptical that Guerin can do that
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If not Konecny, Farabee from the flyers might be a good option. 50-60 point player locked up long term who might have untapped upside yet. Might not want to move him, but this regime didn’t draft or extend him, and they want high picks and they’re not getting them this year currently
Spurgeon
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Farabee is a good target. Young, good cap hit on a long-term extension. Those are the types of players I want Guerin to be targeting if we’re going the trade route.
In my opinion, a player like Ek is significantly more valuable than a Nylander or a Pettersson. There’s a reason Tampa has “overpaid” to acquire players like Hagel & it’s because of the economic benefit their contracts provide.
We really don’t benefit that much by trading for guys that have UFA contracts expiring at the end of 2025. There’s going to be a decent supply of UFA forwards hitting the market in the next two offseasons, so I’d prefer waiting unless there’s a player they really want.
The peak of this team’s window is going to be the 25-26 season, so any player on a good contract through 2026 or later would be the ideal target. However, I think this team needs to look towards getting a 1LD/2LD more than they need forwards.
25-26 lineup is going to be pretty solid already (don’t worry about the lineup, hard to determine who fits where 2 years out):
Boldy - Ek - Kap
Khusnutdinov - Rossi - Hartman
Yurov - Heidt - Zucc
Foligno - Gaudreau - Bankier/Stramel/4RW
I think they could target a top 6 winger, but really shouldn’t be much more help needed beyond that. If there is, that’ll be the time to go rental shopping at the TDL.
Defense is where I’m very concerned if Spurgeon doesn’t come back in good condition. Middleton & Chisholm are not Top 4 defensemen.
Yurov and Ohgren need to hit and we need to add a top 4 level defensive prospect.
We could also just sign Konecny when he’s a free agent and keep the prospects.
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I don't understand or agree with this mindset. That is the first year our window may be open. It only goes up after that, assuming guys like Yurov, Khusnutdinov, Rossi, Boldy, Ohgren, Heidt don't bust out and/or continue to improve from now.
Spurgeon
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They’re going to be out from under the dead cap with Kap on his deal still. Those ELC players will all be on the cheapest deals they’re ever going to have here. That should realistically be the best chance this team has at making a run with all the excess cap they’ll have.
I’m not saying that it immediately drops off after that, I think we’re gonna have a very strong 4-5 year window. I just think we’re going to be in the most favorable situation to win the cup right at the beginning.
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Obvious Fabertism
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I agree that D is a primary concern, even with Middleton and Chisholm playing well, I would ideally have them on the bottom pair and there are always injuries. I would look heavily into a guy like Skjei and see if there’s a possibility there to bring him home.
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