Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24
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Spurgeon
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I’m worried that no news is bad news.
Hoping it’s just a minor MCL sprain. Definitely looked knee related though. I remember back in HS, I had a nasty collision & my knee was badly swollen. Thought for sure I tore something because I couldn’t walk, but just ended up being swollen for a few days & I was fine in a week. Would be great news if that ended up being the case here.
I’d rather save the assets & go after Guentzel/Reinhart/Lindholm in UFA, but they’ll likely be expensive with the cap increase.
Problem with Konecny is that he’s going to cost assets & then cost the same as any of those 3 guys to re-sign. Although I would take Konecny over any of them.
I was hoping that it was a Charley horse. They hurt like hell, and put you out for a couple of days, but are ultimately minor. They are kind of rare with how well padded the pants are, but it didn't seem like his knee was in an awkward psoition.
It goes w/o saying that if JEE is out we are toast.
I’ve got 10 guys I want for sure in the draft.
I’m not thrilled at the thought of paying Konecny $8.5M+ either. That means we are paying $24.5M per year to three wingers and that will increase even more with the Kaprizov extension. That’s over 25% of the total cap.
Spurgeon
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Yeah that was the strange thing & why I’m cautiously optimistic that it may just be a minor thing. It wasn’t a violent knee-on-knee incident so it would seem unlikely for it to end up being a severe injury.
Never know though, some innocent looking plays end up causing bad injuries. Just hoping it’s 1-2 weeks at the maximum because I think we may get through that stretch with our upcoming schedule.
Dr Jan Itor
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Fair point, but I think of it more as:
Konecny at $8.5M + Eriksson Ek + Boldy = $20.75M / 3 = ~$6.9M for each guy for a full 4 years (even less AAV if you count Konecny's $5.5M year), which I think is pretty exceedingly reasonable for 3 really good top 6 players. If we're not going to weaponize Eriksson Ek's awesome contract to bring in more talent, then what's really the point of having it?
Add in Kaprizov's ~$13M, and it's still only ~$8.4M for each player: 1 star winger, 1 2-way monster center and 2 top line-ish wingers.
I still think the math adds up.
And we now sit 14th in win%, with a weak schedule ahead of us.
I like the first 12, even though some come with question marks.
Forwards; Celeb, Demidov, Catton, LIndstrom, Helenius, Eiserman
D; Lev, Sil, Dick, Buium, Yak, Parekh(have doubts, but that scoring is crazy)
Then there is another 3 that are interesting.
Jiricek - injured most of season, but toolsy
Iginla - maybe belongs above, making for a top 13?
Connelly- talented, but possible DND because of character concerns.
Then 3 more that I really like;
Sennecke- giraffe on skates due to growth(mother was Olympic volleyballer), but flashes great talent. Needs time.
Greentree - slow, but big, skilled, and smart.
MBN - Norwegian with size, skating, and shot.
There are quite a few meat and potatoes Dmen with size after that. At least one Russian, a Finn, couple of Canadians, couple of Americans, then the smaller skilled D like Hutson and Kiviharju. Some of them are maybe bets to be picked in the second round, but a 6'3" RHD who can skate and defend makes GM's salivate. This year has a lot of depth at D.
Dr Jan Itor
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As much as it looks like the top 10 is set, somebody will go slightly off the board. Maybe 2 teams.
Wasted Talent
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I think so, but we'd only gain about 1 million in cap relief, not his full cap hit.
Ideally, the cap would be spent on making more important positions better (top 4, center, possibly goaltender).
Can you name me a team that has won multiple playoff rounds with 25% of their cap tied to three wingers? Most teams spend on centers…
Vegas - 2/3 of top paid forwards are centers
Tampa - 3/4
Edmonton - lol
Florida - 2/4
Colorado is an odd duck. They’ve been looking for a 2C for years. The year they had one (Kadri), they won the Cup.
Minnewildsota
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This. So much this. This was exactly why I was ok trading away Fiala. Having most of your money tied up in wingers is just silly and not a recipe for success.
Dr Jan Itor
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Alright, I'll start brainstorming some Yurov+1st trades that could bring back a high money center.
Minnewildsota
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Or we could just not trade for any high priced player and build our team through the draft. The go button for trading a 1st+prospect for a Konecny type happens when we are in playoff contention. Not 2 years before.
So in 25-26, when we are rocking:
Kap-Yurov-Boldy
Ohgren-Ek-XXXX
Khusnutdinov-Rossi-Heidt
Foligno-Gaudreau-Hartman
That’s the time to trade 1st++ for a top 6 winger.
Minnewildsota
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Except we can’t build through the draft properly when the owner and GM pull every single rabbit out every year to squeak their first round cannon fodder team into the playoffs or as close as possible.
Dr Jan Itor
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If you're right on all 4 of the prospects you're plugging in, it seems like a decent plan.
Technically the Konecny plan is gambling pretty heavily on Yurov.
Way too logical. We need to have something to look forward to. This team has been 2 years away for a decade
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Dr Jan Itor
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Probably should've aimed for someone younger than a soon-to-be 31 year old.
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I don't know about all that, I just know we were voted one of the best prospect pools in the league and Granlund is the best player outside of the NHL right now, success is a matter of when not if.
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