Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24
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Minnewildsota
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Oh, so you agree there are none with what I presented. Good. Glad we're on the same page.
Obvious Fabertism
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The roster can’t take on a big contract during the off season. During next season, the only limit is accrued cap space. I could try the math later or Jan probably has it ready to go, but it seems likely we can carry a bit of space into next season and start accruing quite a bit early (barring major injuries again.) At the end of the day, Guerin will have significantly more options available to him in less than a year, I doubt he blows his load early here.
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I'd be much more comfortable with something like this if we didn't have the buyouts handicapping us through next season. The fact that stars are aligning elsewhere with players like Kaprizov, Ek, Faber and Boldy does make it difficult to balance Now and the Future, though.
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Trying to come up with a list of guys I would be okay trading Rossi for (not all would make me happy, but I would at least give them a chance):
Lundell: Another center, but at least this one has more size, if that would be the issue. I like Rossi's offensive upside way more, but Lundell could still be an effective middle six guy. Maybe Florida adds a bit?
Necas: a winger who "can play center", but is more of a dynamic offensive guy that could help drive play a little more overtly. That said, doesn't scream Guerin player at all, and comes off to me as a bit of a poor man's Fiala.
Lafreniere: I think he's getting similar usage to Rossi at this point, even strength numbers are slightly better, PP production is the same, basically just converts Rossi into a bigger winger that could play alongside Ek or Yurov or Khusnutdinov if that's who our centers end up being.
Byram: This one is iffy for me because of his injury history and his underwhelming play this year, but if it works out he could be the new top pairing LD aside Faber and you'd only have to worry about bottom four defensemen after that.
Would welcome any other suggestions, but I purposely avoided 1st+prospect packages because there are too many prospects out there to name. Tried sticking to other young NHL players with upside that might work for both teams.
I'm also fairly reserved on the Rossi stuff for now because, it seems like Russo is operating from the assumption that they feel the same way about Rossi this year after his breakout as they did last summer, pre-breakout and after it looked like he didn't belong in the NHL at all, when they extended Gaudreau and Hartman and drafted Stramel. I'd like to believe Guerin would have changed his mind on Rossi from last year, but Russo isn't reporting about his feelings this year.
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Obvious Fabertism
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It seems likely that Duhaime will be gone, replaced by Khusnutdinov, Goligoski gone and replaced by Chisholm, both moves that give us more cap space. Then that pretty much only leaves 3RD for Bogosian or a replacement. Likely cap neutral to current moment. Add in a $4MM cap bump and unless I am missing someone, it’s seems pretty easy for the Wild to carry space into next year. Roll your supposed healthy roster for two months and all of a sudden that $4MM can fit a $10MM AAV player.
I hate trading a young C like Rossi. He’s such a smart player and while he isn’t flashy, he has quick processing ability and can move the puck very efficiently.
Yurov was below 45% on the dot. Still a good chance he is a wing.
Marat & Heidt are awfully small and would face the same issues Rossi did as an undersized C.
Yurov was below 45% on the dot. Still a good chance he is a wing.
Marat & Heidt are awfully small and would face the same issues Rossi did as an undersized C.
I think 57 is saying that we aren’t a normal team because we already are paying 15M in dead money. We can’t afford to make mistakes like other GMs can
I just think it's too early to consider trading Rossi. We haven't seen enough of him yet, but what we do see are big steps for him this year. It would be very typical for Billy to move him only for the kid to become one of the stud centermen that we've been trying to find for the past 20 freaking years.
But I feel like when BG doesn't like something, he gets really petty and won't listen to anyone else's opinions. He just jumps without considering the whole picture. He has no patience. If he moves Rossi, I'd love for it to backfire spectacularly on him.
But I feel like when BG doesn't like something, he gets really petty and won't listen to anyone else's opinions. He just jumps without considering the whole picture. He has no patience. If he moves Rossi, I'd love for it to backfire spectacularly on him.
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Trading Rossi in lateral move just seems like an unnecessary risk. I would get throwing him in a package to get a top of the lineup player, but we all know we can afford another one of those right now. Makes the most sense to keep him another year, hope he can improve to a 50ish point center, and then if you really have your panties in a bunch trade him + 1st + prospect for a haul.
Minnewildsota
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Depends on what the trade is. Doing Rossi + for a better player seems like a trade that might be worth pursuing.
Duhaime + Goli ($3.1m) for Chisholm + Marat K (~$1.8m) swap opens up maybe $1.3m. I'm not sure they add anything until late in camp (if needed) as far as d-men.
He was on a near 50 point pace before they stuck him with a pair of AHLers. With the vast majority of points coming at even strength. Chances are very good he hits that mark consistently. I’d be more worried about him becoming a 70 point player
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Minnewildsota
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Not sure about Marat, as i've seen him listed at 5'9" and 5'11", but Heidt is 5'11", and probably still growing. I would guess he will end up somewhere around 6', which will be 3" taller than Rossi.
Rossi is built strongly, but he is a small guy, whereas Heidt average'ish, and is known to play with a bit of combativeness.
100% agree that i would hate to trade Rossi, but it's possible that Guerin could swing something for one of OTT or BUF's young prospects, i guess, or maybe even their #1 pick. I would be ok(but not thrilled) with a pick in the 5-10 range for Rossi, even though I like him, and believe that he has the determination to succeed.
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If Öhgren plays another year in the SHL I don't think he goes to the AHL.
It's one or the other next year, then the year after he should be NHL ready.
So I expect him in the big club the year cap hell is over.
The KHL had him a 177cm, 80kg; that's 5'8" 177 lbs in US. He's almost 22 so he's probably done growing. For reference Bracco (TOR had him in seemingly every trade for a few years) was on the same team and listed at 180 cm (5'9"), 89kg (196 lbs).
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Yeah, not sure where NHL is getting the 5'11 number still. It's possible he's grown an inch since the draft and the KHL website just hasn't updated his height at all, but I don't know why the NHL would have the new numbers before he's stepped foot in this country.
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