Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24

[Wabit]

I feel like the team is probably going to beat San Jose and then Arizona, and then on Friday Guerin will go out and do a mini buy of a couple of depth pieces thinking the team is still in the hunt for anything meaningful because they won two in a row.

It depends if he's feeling pressure from the owner or not. Making a couple of small buys to make it look like he's trying to win so the owner is happy is something I see happening.

 

[57special]

It depends if he's feeling pressure from the owner or not. Making a couple of small buys to make it look like he's trying to win so the owner is happy is something I see happening.

It's more like the owner wants to show the fans thats he is trying to do something. He is not a stupid man... he has to know that this is not our year. He is also a businessman, and knows that he has to sell tickets, merch, and the like, and the best way to do that is if fans think we have a chance to win.

 

[DANOZ28]

57, stop using logic & common sense we want wild & crazy so lets get back to the zukey for perrault straight up trade!

 

[57special]

57, stop using logic & common sense we want wild & crazy so lets get back to the zukey for perrault straight up trade!

Sorry man, don't know what i was thinking.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

So who we buying at the deadline? Who is old and gritty that’s available?

 

[BagHead]

So who we buying at the deadline? Who is old and gritty that’s available?

I believe I fit that description. My shower is broken, so the grit has been accumulating. My level of hockey skill will help this team reach one end of the standings, and I'll welcome any ice spray that helps clean me off.

 

[57special]

I am older and gritty, but fear that I might cause locker room problems as i casually drop comments about who needs to be traded.

 

[BagHead]

I am older and gritty, but fear that I might cause locker room problems as i casually drop comments about who needs to be traded.

A real Ryan Suter, this guy.

 

[57special]

I am available to do KwikTrip ads, and will do far better at it than Suter ever did.

 

[keppel146]

I want to read more trade rumors

 

[HotDish]

I'll jump on armchair gm and find trades.

 

[57special]

Yuck... good to hear from you, @HotDish !

 

[MuckOG]

Yeah, I'm not expecting much of a return for players like Duhaime and Dewar. More than anything, we probably just need to open up a few roster sports for young guys like Marat, Ohgren, and maybe even Heidt to make the team. Really hurts that we can't move players like Gaudreau and Johansson....because I would rather keep Dewar than Gaudreau.

 

[57special]

Yeah, I'm not expecting much of a return for players like Duhaime and Dewar. More than anything, we probably just need to open up a few roster sports for young guys like Marat, Ohgren, and maybe even Heidt to make the team. Really hurts that we can't move players like Gaudreau and Johansson....because I would rather keep Dewar than Gaudreau.

Preaching to the choir, here.

 

[NHL1674]

So who we buying at the deadline? Who is old and gritty that’s available?

Reaves. You know Billy wants that toughness back.

Preaching to the choir, here.

Preaching it loud!

Dewies > Freddy/Mojo

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Does Khusnutdinov’s arrival make Marco Rossiexpendable?

Smith: Khusnutdinov comes in with a lot of hype as a well-rounded, two-way, tenacious center, and he’s expected to jump right into the Wild lineup once his visa is complete. But the skilled Russian isn’t the reason Minnesota might listen on Rossi this summer. Rossi has had a quality rookie season — good, but not great, with 17 goals and 33 points. He’s shown he’s capable of playing a top-six center role. But, to me, the Wild said everything about their belief in Rossi last spring when they signed Gaudreau to a five-year deal then re-signed Hartman in September (one year away from free agency) to a three-year extension. If the Wild believed Rossi was the top-six center they envisioned when they drafted him in the first round, why double down on those two before you had to? So now, a franchise often short on centers, has Joel Eriksson Ek, Khusnutdinov, Rossi, Freddy Gaudreau and Hartman up the middle, plus Heidt expected to make his case for a roster spot in camp. Rossi could be a player the Wild move this offseason if the right deal comes up.

Russo and Smith: What we’re hearing and thinking about the Wild heading into trade deadline — mailbag style

The Wild's players have spoken loud and clear to Bill Guerin: They are not a legit playoff contender. What does that mean for the deadline?

theathletic.com

Doubled down on the Rossi trade talk. They’re not high on him

 

[BagHead]

Russo and Smith: What we’re hearing and thinking about the Wild heading into trade deadline — mailbag style

The Wild's players have spoken loud and clear to Bill Guerin: They are not a legit playoff contender. What does that mean for the deadline?

theathletic.com

Doubled down on the Rossi trade talk. They’re not high on him

I'm of two minds on this.
1) He's a good center, young, and a need for the team. Why be high on him? /sarcasm
2) He is small and not overly fast, which could mean his game will struggle in the playoffs.

I think I would wait to see how #2 plays out because #1 is true, but Guerin's gonna Guerin.

*edit* Also, statement 2 is true for Marat as well, but we can't say the same about statement 1 so far.

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

I'm of two minds on this.
1) He's a good center, young, and a need for the team. Why be high on him? /sarcasm
2) He is small and not overly fast, which could mean his game will struggle in the playoffs.

I think I would wait to see how #2 plays out because #1 is true, but Guerin's gonna Guerin.

*edit* Also, statement 2 is true for Marat as well, but we can't say the same about statement 1 so far.

Marat is fast tho

 

[thestonedkoala]

My guess is something like Duhaime + Rossi + Yurov + Wallstedt and a 1st for Tkachuk + Chychrun.

Sign back Fleury for 2 more years because why not and then trade a 2nd for Nick Foligno.

 

[57special]

My guess is something like Duhaime + Rossi + Yurov + Wallstedt and a 1st for Tkachuk + Chychrun.

Sign back Fleury for 2 more years because why not and then trade a 2nd for Nick Foligno.

That trade is absolutely impossible from a salary cap POV. Not even close. It's also incredibly stupid from MN's POV.

Marat doesn't have a fraction of Rossi's offensive game. Anyone expecting him to replace Rossi in that regard is going to be very disappointed. He's more like a Freddy replacement, which makes his contract even more ridiculous.

 

[thestonedkoala]

That trade is absolutely impossible from a salary cap POV. Not even close. It's also incredibly stupid from MN's POV.

Guerin's special!

Yeah Tkachuk won't fit cap wise (8 million with only uh 2-3 million going back and that's with Spurgeon on LTIR permanently) but...

I wouldn't be surprised if Guerin did something monumentally stupid at the deadline because he genuinely thinks this team can go far in the playoffs.

I'm dreading Friday, because it's going to be something that dumb.

Also remember, this is also the coach that gave up on Eeli Tolvanen and made some dumb moves with rookies and young players. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons why Rossi is on his way out is because of Hynes.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Russo and Smith: What we’re hearing and thinking about the Wild heading into trade deadline — mailbag style

The Wild's players have spoken loud and clear to Bill Guerin: They are not a legit playoff contender. What does that mean for the deadline?

theathletic.com

Doubled down on the Rossi trade talk. They’re not high on him

Oh for f***s sakes.

Signing Hartman and Gaudreau should have absolutely nothing to do with your 22 year old rookie center. Both can be 3rd and 4th line RWs for the duration of their contracts.

 

[Bazeek]

Russo and Smith: What we’re hearing and thinking about the Wild heading into trade deadline — mailbag style

The Wild's players have spoken loud and clear to Bill Guerin: They are not a legit playoff contender. What does that mean for the deadline?

theathletic.com

Doubled down on the Rossi trade talk. They’re not high on him

Again, I hope this is just the writers applying faulty logic and working backwards from what happened last summer. It's their jobs to write things, so they write things.

If it's a reflection on management's thinking, that's trouble. Handing Gaudreau that contract was an overcorrection. Letting that overcorrection dictate what you do with Rossi seems like the opposite of what a GM should do.

Different story if they really don't think Rossi fits with what they're trying to build, but I have yet to see a good argument for that. Khusnutdinov coming over doesn't really affect anything one way or the other at this point.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Oh for f***s sakes.

Signing Hartman and Gaudreau should have absolutely nothing to do with your 22 year old rookie center. Both can be 3rd and 4th line RWs for the duration of their contracts.

Shouldn't, but probably does. You don't sign the contracts you do to put them out on wing.

 

[Minnewildsota]

“They’d trade him if the right deal comes along”

Somehow equals

“The Wild are absolutely trading Rossi”