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Minnewildsota said:
This is the only one that somewhat surprises me. Thought they would want him with the big team for a bit longer. If he's going to get more looks, in the preseason, in Iowa, I understand the move.
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Probably want to see more of Gus, new to the organization and needs the most familiarity with the team. He is by far the biggest question mark for the team to start the season, can’t spend any of our open cap until we have an idea of if he will be capable or not.
 
TaLoN said:
Why do so many period think wanting to see line experimentation means we want to see fixed stacked lines? Or want to see changes made permanently at all?

Wanting to see Boldy play for a bit with Kap, does that automatically mean they should ONLY play on the same line? Why is it so bad wanting to see what he have there?

They can always change back you know.

It goes back to what Dean himself said going into the playoffs. The guys played where they did all season. He wasn't about to change it as they haven't played elsewhere all year. He didn't want to disrupt things in the lineup.

That was purely on him. He didn't experiment when he had the chance, so he was afraid of the result because he had no clue what his other options even were.
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Like I said, I'm not against experimenting.......and I'm sure we'll see plenty of Kaprizov and Boldy together on PP1.
 
Minnewildsota said:
This is the only one that somewhat surprises me. Thought they would want him with the big team for a bit longer. If he's going to get more looks, in the preseason, in Iowa, I understand the move.
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There are only 2 nets on the ice and the starter/backup get those. The 3rd and 4th goalies are mostly for the guys who want to shoot after practice. Every goalie I've talked to say it's nice to get more feels on the puck, but they don't put a lot of effort into it.

Plus the extra couple of days gives him more time to get settled in Iowa.
 
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MuckOG said:
Like I said, I'm not against experimenting.......and I'm sure we'll see plenty of Kaprizov and Boldy together on PP1.
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On the PP isn't 5v5.

I have my doubts about seeing experimenting since we didn't see it last year, even with the season on the line, Deano did what do nothing Deano does.
 
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TaLoN said:
On the PP isn't 5v5.

I have my doubts about seeing experimenting since we didn't see it last year, even with the season on the line, Deano did what do nothing Deano does.
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We saw him experiment with Kaprizov and Fiala, did we not? Evason also experimented with Ek centering the first line. Neither was a success.
 
MuckOG said:
We saw him experiment with Kaprizov and Fiala, did we not? Evason also experimented with Ek centering Kaprizov early last season.
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2 years ago before he got comfortable with his Kap line.

As for Ek, that was when they thought Ek could be a top line center, before that didn't work and found Hartman serviceable there.

Once he fixes on a line, he's done changing things. Even when he sees his team getting dominated repeatedly in the playoffs.
 
MuckOG said:
Debatable. If they showed even a hint of having chemistry, don't you think Fiala would've gotten a longer look than he did?

As an aside, why do so many fans want to stack all the top players on a single line? During Chicago's run, Kane, Toews and Hossa were rarely on the same line unless it was end of the game or power play. I have no issues with trying Boldy with Kaprizov, but if Boldy shows that he can drive a line on his own, I think it would be a waste to team him up with #97. Spread out the scoring across multiple lines vs concentrate the scoring on one line.
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If you have two line drivers on the same line, it forces that top shutdown pair used against said line to actually focus on more than just one person. If you take Kap away, Zucc and Hartmann are nowhere near as effective. It is an absolute solution? no but when a defensive system has more than 1 person per line to fixate on and defend it makes it more difficult. Yes having two scoring lines is helpful and useful and I am not against it however I would want to try to create a top line that cannot be shutdown no matter the opponent.

Which is more appealing to you? knowing nobody can shut down your top line, or hoping your secondary scoring comes through when that top line cant? I know my preference.
 
MuckOG said:
IMO, its perfectly understandable for ANY coach to get comfortable with one of the top scoring lines in the NHL.
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Yes, but when the rest of the team is getting completely dominated, you're just going to say f*** it, that line was dominant in the regular season, so I don't want to change anything?

Kap dragged that line kicking and screaming in the post season. It was Kap and nobody. The other lines were doing absolutely nothing... yet they just kept throwing the same shit at the same wall expecting a different result.
 
TaLoN said:
Yes, but when the rest of the team is getting completely dominated, you're just going to say f*** it, that line was dominant in the regular season, so I don't want to change anything?
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Fix the PP and PK and the Wild beat St Louis and advance.

DeagleJenkins said:
If you have two line drivers on the same line, it forces that top shutdown pair used against said line to actually focus on more than just one person. If you take Kap away, Zucc and Hartmann are nowhere near as effective. It is an absolute solution? no but when a defensive system has more than 1 person per line to fixate on and defend it makes it more difficult. Yes having two scoring lines is helpful and useful and I am not against it however I would want to try to create a top line that cannot be shutdown no matter the opponent.

Which is more appealing to you? knowing nobody can shut down your top line, or hoping your secondary scoring comes through when that top line cant? I know my preference.
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I want two scoring lines with the talent spread evenly. I don't want to make it easier for the opponents by making them only focus on one line.
 
MuckOG said:
Fix the PP and PK and the Wild beat St Louis and advance.
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They were getting dominated in all aspects, not just special teams once the Blues put their lines through the blender.

MuckOG said:
I want two scoring lines. I don't want to make it easier on the opponents
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I want flexible lines to confuse the opposition like the Blues coach confused Deano. Dean was like a dear in the headlights in the playoffs. Completely outmatched.
 
MuckOG said:
I want two scoring lines with the talent spread evenly. I don't want to make it easier for the opponents by making them only focus on one line.
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Even if the top line is so dominant that they both get 100+ points, you'd rather have the wealth spread out and hope Boldy can drive his line to get anywhere near that?
 
MuckOG said:
Their PK was 69.2% and PP was only 16.7%. If they were just average in those departments, I think the Wild win that series.
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Most of thar was prior to them putting their lines through the blender though. We were embarrassingly bad after that.
 
DeagleJenkins said:
Even if the top line is so dominant that they both get 100+ points, you'd rather have the wealth spread out and hope Boldy can drive his line to get anywhere near that?
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Yes.

Zuccarello may not reach 100 pts, but he will be right around the PPG mark (70-80 pts). I'll roll with that line and Boldy on a line with Rossi and Jost/Gaudreau.

Zuccarello gets far too much hate on this board. I think I know why, but it has nothing to do with his play.
 
MuckOG said:
Yes.

Zuccarello may not reach 100 pts, but he will be right around the PPG mark (70-80 pts). I'll roll with that line and Boldy on a line with Rossi and Jost/Gaudreau.

Zuccarello gets far too much hate on this board. I think I know why, but it has nothing to do with his play.
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We all know why he gets more hate than he deserves. My want to move him is not because of that however, it is purely because I see this as a growth year and not a cup contending one so I would rather create proper areas to grow in rather than let the vets hang out and hope for a lucky playoff run.
 
DeagleJenkins said:
We all know why he gets more hate than he deserves. My want to move him is not because of that however, it is purely because I see this as a growth year and not a cup contending one so I would rather create proper areas to grow in rather than let the vets hang out and hope for a lucky playoff run.
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If your philosophy is to only "go for it" when you have no deficiencies and deep at all positions, you might find that you will be waiting for a long time.

There are no rules that say you can't grow while still pushing for playoff success. Zuccarello is not blocking any deserving youngsters from playing significant minutes in the NHL.

The Wild are contenders. I have them as a top 3 team in the central and one of the top 4-5 teams in the West, overall. No reason to take the foot off the pedal at all. They will go as far as MAF and their special teams will take them. Zuccarello only helps.
 
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Practice today PK included Zucc, Kap and Boldy. Last two are interesting, I know Zucc can do well there he played PK for the Rangers. Evason said Boldy looked good too. We'll see some new guys on both special teams.
 
Webster said:
Practice today PK included Zucc, Kap and Boldy. Last two are interesting, I know Zucc can do well there he played PK for the Rangers. Evason said Boldy looked good too. We'll see some new guys on both special teams.
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That's good to hear. The Wild used to have a fairly dangerous PK when they used guys like Gaborik on it. Having speed and skill on the PK can quickly turn defense into offense. With as deep a team as the Wild have, I have no problem with them giving their bottom lines a little more 5v5 time to compensate for the ice time/energy levels if it means improved special teams.
 
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Oh for sure , we need Zucc Kap and Boldy out there blocking shots. Brilliants strategy. Good f***ing grief
 
f7ben said:
Oh for sure , we need Zucc Kap and Boldy out there blocking shots. Brilliants strategy. Good f***ing grief
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It's a valid point, higher risk of injuries. But as Evason said, we need to try all guys who can kill, because we had some issues there last season.
 
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