Proposal: Minnesota - Rangers

[Kshahdoo]

Chytil, Laf, Kakko for Kaprizov.

Kakko is pretty much for cap reasons here, he doesn't have a lot of value. Chytil and Laf do, but still not as much as Kaprizov. But they are young and controlled: Chytil is signed for 3 more years, Laf is RFA.

I'd say it all depends on how good Lafreniere is going to progress. I'd say he's little by little becoming the player people expected he'd become. I very doubt he'll ever be as good as Kaprizov, but it's better to have him for next many years than having problems with Kaprizov resigning.

For Rangers they immediately get another superstar and top5 NHL winger, and I'm pretty sure they won't have problems with resigning him.

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[BuiumSaveUs]

Why are you always trying to trade Kaprizov out of MN lol? Let us have one nice thing

 

[AKL]

Alright, I'm just gonna get this party started

This is horrendous for Minnesota

 

[Kshahdoo]

Alright, I'm just gonna get this party started

This is horrendous for Minnesota

Chytil and Laf are very good parts, I doubt you'll get anything close to them if it becomes obvious that the Wild have problems with resigning Kaprizov... I think you won't get anything close to them even now, because other teams aren't sure they'll be able to resign Kap. Rangers never had problems with resigning Russians, though. NY has the biggest Russian community in the world outside former USSR countries after all.

 

[AKL]

Chytil and Laf are very good parts, I doubt you'll get anything close to them if it becomes obvious that the Wild have problems with resigning Kaprizov...

I'll take my chances

 

[Kshahdoo]

I'll take my chances

Alright, you'll take your chances, let's hear others...

 

[Prior]

Maybe Kaprizov stays, maybe he wants to sign his last largest contract elsewhere. Too early to say.

But if the Wild are going to trade him it can’t be for a collection of NHL mediocrity (to this point) with contracts that are going to sum to (or over) to cap hit you would be allocating to save for Kaprizov. Especially with no picks or prospects coming back to move your window.

That trade does nothing for the Wild as they now have to create space for all of those players and more importantly you’ve just eaten up the only thing that could be seen as a positive if Kaprizov were to leave, a 10+ million opening in cap space. That’s valuable and would allow the Wild to go after someone who could mitigate some of the loss of what Kaprizov would represent. Which neither of these three have remotely shown.

 

[bernmeister]

Chytil, Laf, Kakko for Kaprizov.

Kakko is pretty much for cap reasons here, he doesn't have a lot of value. Chytil and Laf do, but still not as much as Kaprizov. But they are young and controlled: Chytil is signed for 3 more years, Laf is RFA.

I'd say it all depends on how good Lafreniere is going to progress. I'd say he's little by little becoming the player people expected he'd become. I very doubt he'll ever be as good as Kaprizov, but it's better to have him for next many years than having problems with Kaprizov resigning.

For Rangers they immediately get another superstar and top5 NHL winger, and I'm pretty sure they won't have problems with resigning him.

NO

 

[Mrfenn92]

Wild say no easily

 

[Dfence033]

Wild wouldn’t be likely to take this, and the Rangers couldn’t afford Kaprizov’s likely next contract. So this doesn’t do much for either team.

 

[TGWL]

kaprizov, clearly the best player listed, has another year before Wild have to worry about this. So they wouldn't be interested. This isn't a decision they need to make right now regarding Kaprizov's future with the organization.

Rangers aren't guaranteed to be able to sign him just because they don't have issues signing players. In 2 years, where is the team going to be with no Laf, no Chytil, probably no Panarin, and an even older Zibanejad and Kreider? What makes Kaprizov interested in sticking around when the prospect pool doesn't look like it'll be staying contenders?

 

[thestonedkoala]

No. Quantity is not quality.

 

[Kshahdoo]

No. Quantity is not quality.

Minnesota won't get equal to Kaprizov players for him because they aren't for trade. If they think they will resign him, then great. But they shouldn't whine later when they won't be able to resign him and have to trade him for peanuts or just let him go for nothing...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Wild wouldn’t be likely to take this, and the Rangers couldn’t afford Kaprizov’s likely next contract. So this doesn’t do much for either team.

The premise of this deal is sending Chytil's money the other way, not having to pay Lafrenierre's extension, and Kaprizov's new deal will kick in when Panarin's and Trouba's expire. They'll probably want to bring Panarin back, but he'll be 34/35 and probably not very expensive.

But the math could change if Shesterkin gets what he wants.

 

[BagHead]

Minnesota won't get equal to Kaprizov players for him because they aren't for trade. If they think they will resign him, then great. But they shouldn't whine later when they won't be able to resign him and have to trade him for peanuts or just let him go for nothing...

I'm not under the illusion that the Wild would get Kaprizov's equal in a trade, but you shouldn't be under the illusion that they wouldn't get a great package nonetheless, one that doesn't include another team's problems.

The Wild have Foligno, they don't need another $4+ million player (Chytil) who can't stay healthy. The Wild have plenty of overpaid 3rd and 4th liners, they don't need Kakko. Make a trade offer with some value besides the single good player who isn't as good as Kaprizov, if you're going to at all.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Minnesota won't get equal to Kaprizov players for him because they aren't for trade. If they think they will resign him, then great. But they shouldn't whine later when they won't be able to resign him and have to trade him for peanuts or just let him go for nothing...

With him having a full NMC, I am resigned to the idea that if he's not on the team going forward, he'll have been traded for less-than-ideal value or walked for nothing.

 

[UnSandvich]

Pass. Kaprizov is good, but not that good to the point where the Rangers should be trading Lafreniere and Chytil for him, as opposed to just taking a run at signing him in FA

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

I wish OP could be banned from posting Kap trades, they are always awful and Guerin has stated early and often that they will do everything that they can to re-sign Kap when he is eligible for it. This is purely a bait topic.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Laf + Perreault + 2nd/minor prospect

Kaprizov is still a top 5 winger in this league and they don't often get traded, especially for parts. Kakko looks mediocre, Chytil is constantly injured. The only intriguing part is Laf, so going to include that.

If you look at what Lindholm brought back (Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, a 1st and a conditional draft pick), that's pretty much the basis of what Kaprizov will probably bring back in a trade. Chytil, Kaapo, Laf doesn't touch that given that Chytil is injured, Kakko is mediocre and Laf is a decent top 6 forward.

The structure is high level winger, a top prospect, a mid prospect, a high draft pick and another draft pick. Given that Kaprizov is a winger, the return is going to be a bit smaller than if he was a center, but given his status as a top 5 winger in the league - his return is still going to be pretty good, especially at the deadline. I'd expect a top 6 winger (Laf), a top prospect (Perreault or Othmann) and probably a 1st or a 2nd and a mid-tier prospect.

 

[Shocker]

Bro on a mission to put all his favorite russians on the same team.

And by his favorite russians, i mean all of them.

 

[pld459666]

Shit offer for Minnesota. They got BUKU money coming off the books after this season. They will have the space to retain Kaprizov.

Kakko is a 3rd liner
Chytil may be a 2nd liner, but can't stay healthy.
Lafreniere is a solid piece and could still develop into a 1st liner.

Kaprizov is a legit star in this league.

The value is not close here.

 

[Dog]

I think Rangers add 1st or two- 2nd picks and take out Filip Chytil then think Wild would accept.

 

[thestonedkoala]

I think Rangers add 1st or two- 2nd picks and take out Filip Chytil then think Wild would accept.

The biggest issue is Chytil and Kakko don't really move the needle for Minnesota. Minnesota has depth at center, so where does Chytil slide in?

They have Eriksson-Ek, Rossi, Hartman and Gaudreau and even without Hartman, they have guys coming in like Yurov (who has played better at center), Khusnutdinov, Heidt, Haight, and Bankier. Some of them will move to wing, which then begs the question where does Kaapo slide in and who does he replace? They have a lot of depth guys, they just need top 6 which Kaapo hasn't proven he can be. That's why Laf might be the most reasonable piece here and then a prospect or two and a high draft pick.