Proposal: Minnesota - Ottawa Blockbuster

TS Quint

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Do you have anything grounded in fact or statistics or reality that says they're not "pretty comparable players" or is it just the hypothetical fantasy draft for which you made numbers up?
The intangibles! The intangibles of the physicality and leadership that has never taken his team to the playoffs and 26th overall this year. I don’t know if there is another player in the league with more myth to his legend than Brady.
 

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The intangibles! The intangibles of the physicality and leadership that has never taken his team to the playoffs and 26th overall this year.
It’s a team sport. Look at a guy like Matthews, phenomenal player, one of the top 3 centres in the league, but his team is a playoff failure repeatedly due to bad GMs building bad rosters, same thing holds true with Brady.
 

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The intangibles! The intangibles of the physicality and leadership that has never taken his team to the playoffs and 26th overall this year. I don’t know if there is another player in the league with more myth to his legend than Brady.

I mean - all those hits and leadership still had them finishing below a team with 14 million in dead cap.
 

TS Quint

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It’s a team sport. Look at a guy like Matthews, phenomenal player, one of the top 3 centres in the league, but his team is a playoff failure repeatedly due to bad GMs building bad rosters, same thing holds true with Brady.
At least the team failure comes in the playoffs. Matthews does take his team on his back in the regular season. Sure he does choke in the playoffs and there is no excuse for that considering the money he is making. But he gets the chance to choke away the playoffs.

Brady doesn’t. Brady for his physicality and leadership or whatever intangibles he supposedly has doesn’t put the team on his back or elevate his team.

When looking at this proposal Brady is the better player but there isn’t any unseen underlying intangibles that are adding to his value.
 

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Kaprisov's team finished lower in the standings than St. Louis.

Therefore, Robert Thomas > Kiril Kaprisov.

I'm not the one making claims on a players intangibles. I guess when you cant differentiate Brady from Matt Boldy offensively - you need to bring up intangibles...but if those intangibles aren't leading to results expect to be mocked I guess.
 

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Brady isn’t being traded and even if he was the return would be much better than Matt Boldy.
 

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I'm not the one making claims on a players intangibles. I guess when you cant differentiate Brady from Matt Boldy offensively - you need to bring up intangibles...but if those intangibles aren't leading to results expect to be mocked I guess.

There is nothing intangible about his style of play. It’s extremely tangible.

Offensively, Brady has been better in both goals and points in every season they have played together, so he’s already ahead based on that alone.

It’s not like the physical play is what puts Brady ahead.

Basically you guys are hoping Boldy improves to Brady’s numbers which he is already putting up, and that’s your rationale.

This is why the poll was lopsided, you don’t even need his so-called intangibles to pick the bird in the hand over the mystery box behind door #2.

Now I’m reading that Minnesota is a better team so therefore Tkachuk isn’t effective. Maybe if Brady played goalie, he’d have the kind of impact you seem to be expecting.
 
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Yeah, like who? List some guys.
Both criteria, it's basically just Makar (if you want to stay in the upper echelon of defenseman).

Dropping the "similar term" part, and you can expand to Fox and McAvoy.

Outside of that, you're looking at somebody like Cernak or Carlo.

Best I can figure.
 

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Any and all 31 teams in the league
Examples

Boston - Carlo and Swayman. Bruins resign Uhlmark and take Forsberg.

Rangers - Schneider + Cuylee + Othman +

Islanders - Signed Dobson + Pageau 50% retained.
 

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Boston - Carlo and Swayman. Bruins resign Uhlmark and take Forsberg.

Rangers - Schneider + Cuylee + Othman +

Islanders - Signed Dobson + Pageau 50% retained.

Okay so you're not actually looking for anything much better than Boldy, you're just getting more quantity at different positions.
 

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Okay so you're not actually looking for anything much better than Boldy, you're just getting more quantity at different positions.
Addressing RD is #1 priority. Upgrade in goal would be nice.

I stilll wouldn’t trade Tkachuk unless he wanted out and even then it would be next June.
 

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There is nothing intangible about his style of play. It’s extremely tangible.

Offensively, Brady has been better in both goals and points in every season they have played together, so he’s already ahead based on that alone.

It’s not like the physical play is what puts Brady ahead.

Basically you guys are hoping Boldy improves to Brady’s numbers which he is already putting up, and that’s your rationale.

This is why the poll was lopsided, you don’t even need his so-called intangibles to pick the bird in the hand over the mystery box behind door #2.

Now I’m reading that Minnesota is a better team so therefore Tkachuk isn’t effective. Maybe if Brady played goalie, he’d have the kind of impact you seem to be expecting.


This year Brady scored 5 more points than Boldy this year - but he played 6 more games.

Prior year - Boldy's first real year in the NHL Brady put up better numbers - but thats really to be expected.

If in his second full year in the league he is putting up very comparable numbers to Brady - its probably not fair to say Brady has any offensive advantage. Brady was still putting up sub 40 point seasons at that point in his career.
 

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This year Brady scored 5 more points than Boldy this year - but he played 6 more games.

Prior year - Boldy's first real year in the NHL Brady put up better numbers - but thats really to be expected.

If in his second full year in the league he is putting up very comparable numbers to Brady - its probably not fair to say Brady has any offensive advantage. Brady was still putting up sub 40 point seasons at that point in his career.
I saw that before too, but didn't realize that he was actually leading his team with those 40 point seasons. So not exactly a like comparison.
 
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Brady was still putting up sub 40 point seasons at that point in his career.

What, his 36 points in 56 games? What sub 40 point seasons are you talking about?

On the one hand you're talking about Tkachuk playing 5 more games than Boldy, and on the other, you're talking about him scoring fewer than 40 points when he played 56 games that year (during COVID).

He actually led the team in scoring that year.

Jan Itor said:
I saw that before too, but didn't realize that he was actually leading his team with those 40 point seasons. So not exactly a like comparison.

In Tkachuk's rookie season, Ottawa traded away their top offensive forwards in Stone and Duchene during the season.

As you say, he led Ottawa in scoring in his sophomore year in the league, just ahead of offensive megastars like Connor Brown and Jean-Gabriel Pageau.
 
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