Proposal: Minnesota - Ottawa Blockbuster

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I see you accidentally mistyped the number sign instead of the dollar sign as that should read 'Boldy + $13.00 you mean?'

Then, yes. That statement is correct.

As bad as that deal may look to Minnesota, and I'm not here to argue that as I can see where you're coming from, it's still not appealing to Ottawa in any way.

 

[MK9]

As bad as that deal may look to Minnesota, and I'm not here to argue that as I can see where you're coming from, it's still not appealing to Ottawa in any way.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Boldy + #13 you mean ?

Comments like this are the worst.

The value between the two players is clearly pretty close. Boldy has a better contract, Brady provides a different element GMs tend to like. They have similar production.

Each team has various reasons they may want to or may not want to do it.

Argue those not the "add your 1st lolol, I'm so smrt".

 

[Baksfamous112]

tkachuk is worth significantly more if he was being shopped

Boldy is as good if not a better overall hockey player than Brady is. Don’t sleep on Boldy

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Naw

I think Boldy will eventually show to be the better offensive player and even if he doesn’t, he’s younger, and cheaper and signed for longer

 

[Voight]

I speciifcally said 1-2 years younger in the OP... so in no way did I imply that Tkachuk is near 30 years old.

I also said that Tkachuk is better in the OP, but Boldy's contract being a lower AAV and longer bridges the gap in value. But if you want to go down the rabbit hole, Boldy had a better point per game this year than Tkachuk. Tkachuk had more goals. Boldy more assists. Tkachuk significantly more penalty minutes due to his heavier playstyle. They are very comparable players IMO.

Yea but the Sens aren't facing the cap crunch nor are they at the end of a competitive window, so I dont see why they move Tkachuk unless he asks to be dealt.

 

[SundherDome]

It's not anyone's. Literally nobody cares about the WHC for player valuation once the player hits the NHL

That isn't true at all, there are guys in the WHC that are playing for NHL contracts and GM's keep a pulse and have representation there. It's not like the WJC where every scout is packed into the building but WHC allow players to play different roles and it can earn them a deal.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Nah. No need to overpay for truculence.

Guerin probably would though.

 

[bert]

Brady Tkachuk


Matt Boldy

Tkachuk is the better player currently and plays the way Guerin wants this team to play.

Boldy is 1-2 years younger, signed longer and has a lower cap hit.

Both are stud wingers. Could there be a swap to be made here?

These deals just keep getting worse and worse. How about Kaprizov for Batherson. Batherson has a lower cap hit. Could there be a swap to be made here?.....

Nah. No need to overpay for truculence.

Guerin probably would though.

You gotta f***in kidding me. You dont want to do it? HAHAHAHAH

I doubt it. They were pretty close the last season, and Boldy scored one more point at WHC.

Anyway, Minnesota won't trade him for 19 months older winger, who isn't head and shoulder above Matt.

Find a new hobby, hockey aint it.

What about something around Greig?

How crazy would something close to Greig+7OA for Rossi+13th for blockbuster sake.

Wouldnt trade Greig one for one for Rossi not even close. Greig brings so much more to the table and scores at a similar pace. Watched Rossi a ton in Ottawa doesnt have the boots to be effective at that size. No team that goes deep has him as their 2nd line center. He doesnt fit the mold of a matchup third line center. Theres a reason you want to move him.

 

[bert]

Boldy is as good if not a better overall hockey player than Brady is. Don’t sleep on Boldy

Not even close. Power forwards are few and far between, what Tkachuk brings literally doesnt exist. We're watching a playoffs where power forwards are absolutely dominating.

Comments like this are the worst.

The value between the two players is clearly pretty close. Boldy has a better contract, Brady provides a different element GMs tend to like. They have similar production.

Each team has various reasons they may want to or may not want to do it.

Argue those not the "add your 1st lolol, I'm so smrt".

Why do you think the people who actually make the decisions like physicality. Leadership and all the keyboard warriors that never played hockey dont.

Wouldnt trade Brady for Boldy + 13 under any circumstance.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

You gotta f***in kidding me. You dont want to do it? HAHAHAHAH

I don't overvalue truculence, so no.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Saying your player scored almost as much as Brady, is like saying your horse runs almost as fast as our Unicorn.

It's not that the offer is horse crap - it's just not nearly enough to consider moving such a rarity.

 

[MK9]

These deals just keep getting worse and worse. How about Kaprizov for Batherson. Batherson has a lower cap hit. Could there be a swap to be made here?.....


You gotta f***in kidding me. You dont want to do it? HAHAHAHAH


Find a new hobby, hockey aint it.


Wouldnt trade Greig one for one for Rossi not even close. Greig brings so much more to the table and scores at a similar pace. Watched Rossi a ton in Ottawa doesnt have the boots to be effective at that size. No team that goes deep has him as their 2nd line center. He doesnt fit the mold of a matchup third line center. Theres a reason you want to move him.

I don't think you understand most words or most of the combinations they come in.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Not even close. Power forwards are few and far between, what Tkachuk brings literally doesnt exist. We're watching a playoffs where power forwards are absolutely dominating.


Why do you think the people who actually make the decisions like physicality. Leadership and all the keyboard warriors that never played hockey dont.

Wouldnt trade Brady for Boldy + 13 under any circumstance.

What exactly do you think Boldy is? He won’t fight but he’s the definition of a power forward and is also younger, on a better contract and better defensively.

 

[Digitalbooya]

These deals just keep getting worse and worse. How about Kaprizov for Batherson. Batherson has a lower cap hit. Could there be a swap to be made here?.....

Saying the difference between Tkachuk and Boldy is the same as Kaprizov and Batherson is truly insane. Kaprizov is far and away the best of the four and Batherson is the worst of the group.

 

[Sota Popinski]

These deals just keep getting worse and worse. How about Kaprizov for Batherson. Batherson has a lower cap hit. Could there be a swap to be made here?.....


You gotta f***in kidding me. You dont want to do it? HAHAHAHAH


Find a new hobby, hockey aint it.


Wouldnt trade Greig one for one for Rossi not even close. Greig brings so much more to the table and scores at a similar pace. Watched Rossi a ton in Ottawa doesnt have the boots to be effective at that size. No team that goes deep has him as their 2nd line center. He doesnt fit the mold of a matchup third line center. Theres a reason you want to move him.

Totally. Sens have way better players than the Wild. When was the last time they made the playoffs again?

 

[CanadienShark]

How about

MTL : #5 + #26 + Barron + CGY first 2025 + Joel Armia
for
Wild: Boldy + #13

I wish. Nobody wants a collection of parts we don't care (#26, Barron, Harris, etc.) about for their stars. Please just stop with the awful proposals. It's proposals like this that make people despise Habs fans.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Totally. Sens have way better players than the Wild. When was the last time they made the playoffs again?

Such an impressive burn. How has no one thought of going after the low hanging fruit before? You may be on to something...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

To be fair, I do think our guys don't freak out enough after empty net goals against.

Saying your player scored almost as much as Brady, is like saying your horse runs almost as fast as our Unicorn.

It's not that the offer is horse crap - it's just not nearly enough to consider moving such a rarity.

Gluing a Bugle to a horse's head doesn't make it a unicorn.

 

[roon]

Not even close. Power forwards are few and far between, what Tkachuk brings literally doesnt exist. We're watching a playoffs where power forwards are absolutely dominating.

Which power forwards might those be?

Neither McDavid or Drai are prototypical power forwards.

Nobody on FLA qualifies as a Power Forward....Matthew Tkachuk might drive the net...but the kid is 6'2 200lbs soaking wet....he ain't it.

So who honestly are you talking about?

Wouldnt trade Brady for Boldy + 13 under any circumstance.

The hot takes of a fan base who's team is further from competing than a team with 14 million in dead cap.

Gotta love it.

 

[KevinRedkey]

To be fair, I do think our guys don't freak out enough after empty net goals against.


Gluing a Bugle to a horse's head doesn't make it a unicorn.

Never said it did, but I'm sorry you got confused so easily.

What has been said by many people (including many people you likely concider experts) is that Brady's skillset is very unique in today's NHL. That's what 'unicorn' is in reference to in this case.

To get up to speed regarding Unicorns, see these links:
Brady Tkachuk
Wikipedia - Unicorn

 

[Spurgeon]

I wish. Nobody wants a collection of parts we don't care (#26, Barron, Harris, etc.) about for their stars. Please just stop with the awful proposals. It's proposals like this that make people despise Habs fans.

I don’t think that’s a terrible offer tbh

If we were in a position where we were completely blowing things up, I’d probably consider it. Moving up 8 spots & 2 1st round picks for Boldy is fair. No clue what Barron is as a defenseman, but doesn’t seem like he is just a dump.

Fiala was traded for less than that.

 

[CanadienShark]

I don’t think that’s a terrible offer tbh

If we were in a position where we were completely blowing things up, I’d probably consider it. Moving up 8 spots & 2 1st round picks for Boldy is fair. No clue what Barron is as a defenseman, but doesn’t seem like he is just a dump.

Fiala was traded for less than that.

Best and third best pieces there are coming from Minnesota. I see it more as #5 + #26 for Boldy. Then CGY/FLA 1st (one piece I wouldn't trade yet) + Barron + Armia for #13, which isn't a trade I think you should make. Barron holds very little value and Armia holds next to none.

 

[Sens9292]

Boldy being compared to Brady, along with some saying he's better. What am I reading in this thread.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Never said it did, but I'm sorry you got confused so easily.

What has been said by many people (including many people you likely concider experts) is that Brady's skillset is very unique in today's NHL. That's what 'unicorn' is in reference to in this case.

To get up to speed regarding Unicorns, see these links:
Brady Tkachuk
Wikipedia - Unicorn

You know that you can only hit people when you don't have the puck, right?

Boldy being compared to Brady, along with some saying he's better. What am I reading in this thread.

Roughly the same nonsense as Brady being held up as some difference maker.