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Confirmed Trade: [MIN/CBJ] David Jiricek, 2025 5th round pick for Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks
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Juricek has always been a lot like Jones actually for Minnesota fans asking what he's like. Good forward mobility, great offensive awareness and shot. Able to put up points well.
But...
The hips are an issue defending. He doesnt pivot or swivel well enough when someone skates at him. The foot speed forward is great but backwards he gets burned by purple skating around him. At the NHL level, he lost his confidence and was indecisive which is so odd for a kid with swagger in the AHL ( not to say he didn't make mistakes there.
So I think many Columbus fans were looking at him just turning 21 and hoping he could improve these flaws and fought the idea that trading our top prospect would occur. Is there upside to him? Of course. Is there risk? You bet, all prospects have risk.
And then there are some of us that just wish he'd been packaged to get a better player for Columbus and for a return that more tangibly improved the team. Instead, we wait now.
But...
The hips are an issue defending. He doesnt pivot or swivel well enough when someone skates at him. The foot speed forward is great but backwards he gets burned by purple skating around him. At the NHL level, he lost his confidence and was indecisive which is so odd for a kid with swagger in the AHL ( not to say he didn't make mistakes there.
So I think many Columbus fans were looking at him just turning 21 and hoping he could improve these flaws and fought the idea that trading our top prospect would occur. Is there upside to him? Of course. Is there risk? You bet, all prospects have risk.
And then there are some of us that just wish he'd been packaged to get a better player for Columbus and for a return that more tangibly improved the team. Instead, we wait now.
SteelCityCannon
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Didn't see anybody post the DW interview from yesterday yet. Seems like he didn't that Jiricek was going to necessarily hold his value much longer.
You realized I said Minnesota paid a small bit more. As for comparison, I see the Barclay Goodrow as a good comp. I don't think anyone realizes how good of a third-line player Clutterbuck was (set the record for hits) and how much the NHL has changed since that trade.
Even if Clutterbuck is valued around a 2nd and a 3rd, Minnesota paid, a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd and a 4th for Jiricek and a 5th when they paid at worse a 2nd, 3rd and 3rd for el Nino and didn't even get a trade pick back. So Minnesota paid a 1st and a 4th more for Jiricek? I'd do that, especially since a player like Newhook got a 31st, 37th and Fairbrother back and Minnesota's 2nd won't be that high.
The truth is he is a large defenseman.
It'll take time. If he is willing to put in the work and everything he will most likely be an NHLer. Any blue line can use a guy his size.
It'll take time. If he is willing to put in the work and everything he will most likely be an NHLer. Any blue line can use a guy his size.
Teams trade firsts at the deadline every year for rental big oafs who don't skate well. I'd much rather my GM take a chance on a big defenseman on an ELC who has some skill to his game as well.
Wild scouts have earned the benefit of the doubt with the prospect pool they've built picking in the mid to late first round over the past 6-7 years.
Wild scouts have earned the benefit of the doubt with the prospect pool they've built picking in the mid to late first round over the past 6-7 years.
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Acting like Mailloux isn't quality is bonkers. And Guhle has done just fine on RD.
We're fine.
One clip that I think sums up Jiricek perfectly is his recent OT winner. His agent posted a clip of him scoring the game winning goal
But if you watch the full clip, Jiricek makes a good defensive play with an active stick and then blows a tire in his own defensive zone below the goal line and it could've been very different if Pyythia wasn't there to collect the puck afterwards
But if you watch the full clip, Jiricek makes a good defensive play with an active stick and then blows a tire in his own defensive zone below the goal line and it could've been very different if Pyythia wasn't there to collect the puck afterwards
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I'm wondering why some fans expect a young RD prospect who still needs to grow into his body to be proficient at age 20? As most of us know, it requires longer for defensemen to develop than forwards and thus patience is key.
No guarantee that Jiricek lives up to his draft position, but I would rather give up a few picks and grab this kid then draft another prospect somewhere near the bottom of the 1st round this season and cross my fingers.
No guarantee that Jiricek lives up to his draft position, but I would rather give up a few picks and grab this kid then draft another prospect somewhere near the bottom of the 1st round this season and cross my fingers.
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We should maybe be more careful about continually saying "bottom of the 1st round".
MuckOG
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True. Might be safer to say "bottom half of the 1st round", but who really knows?
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Nobody is expecting that. People expect to see progress though. 3 years ago Jiricek came over after playing against men, despite his young age, in the Czech league. He did good there and he did good in the AHL after coming over. The feeling was he is almost good enough to play in the NHL. However, 2 years later, he is still almost good enough to play in the NHL. Back then, it was a positive. Now, it's a concern.
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You might be right....but giving up on a 20 year old RD seems a little premature. Defensemen usually hit their prime later than forwards do. But only time will tell.
We will see. He has all the tools. And he has size. He will never be Brodin at skating. If he becomes a 2nd pairing D who also sees PP time for his shot...that is an excellent trade.
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That’s why we’ve ended up at this point though. Because it does take time. Time that Jiricek and his agent seem to think isn’t going to be required for him to become the best possible version of an NHL Dman.
Right now, he’s just not in the same class as Clarke, Hughes, Edvinsson, etc. When he made his comment last year, both Clarke and Edvinsson we’re still in the AHL. Making sure they cleaned up a lot of the basics, and any weaknesses they had. Look at them this year. Edvinsson is turning into a beast. We can be sure he wasn’t happy being in the AHL while players he thought he was as good as, were already in the NHL either.
That’s why Columbus wasn’t able to get like-prospect value in return. We’ll see if he’s the good soldier in Minnesota. If he’s not, good bet he never becomes anything special and Columbus wins this deal pretty convincingly.
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