Mike Richards VIII Kings vs NHLPA

[Reclamation Project]

If you make money, California will sniff it out like a bloodhound.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

when is thread going to die?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

when is thread going to die?

Officially, 2032. Get comfy.

/wrists.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

That's not how I understand it. The Jock Tax means players are taxed where they work, which is where they play that game.

I'm no accoutant so I don't know exactly how it works. I do know the players get paid by day, not by game. I think the taxing aspect might work based on days as well. So a team plays a game that day in that state/province and they pay taxes for that day in that state/province. Could be like Kings fly into New York on a Monday. Play Rangers on Tuesday, practice Wednesday, play Islanders on Thursday and fly out after game. So players pay 3 days worth of tax. Maybe, I don't know taxes.

I am certain it is by day though. I know this since it's well documented how plays get paid when called up on two-way deals. When called up for 5 days the players get a bump in salary for those 5 days. It's why teams against the cap would often send players down between games since that would save them money.

 

[jimmy1100]

I'm no accoutant so I don't know exactly how it works. I do know the players get paid by day, not by game. I think the taxing aspect might work based on days as well. So a team plays a game that day in that state/province and they pay taxes for that day in that state/province. Could be like Kings fly into New York on a Monday. Play Rangers on Tuesday, practice Wednesday, play Islanders on Thursday and fly out after game. So players pay 3 days worth of tax. Maybe, I don't know taxes.

I am certain it is by day though. I know this since it's well documented how plays get paid when called up on two-way deals. When called up for 5 days the players get a bump in salary for those 5 days. It's why teams against the cap would often send players down between games since that would save them money.

If you (or anyone else) wants a better idea about this - search for info about Andrew McCutchen's paycheck. Long story short, he left one on the locker room floor after a road game earlier this year and it went public.

The various different taxes and fees taken out from places he had played across the country was crazy.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

Officially, 2032. Get comfy.

/wrists.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

If you (or anyone else) wants a better idea about this - search for info about Andrew McCutchen's paycheck. Long story short, he left one on the locker room floor after a road game earlier this year and it went public.

The various different taxes and fees taken out from places he had played across the country was crazy.

Wowza!

 

[Ron*]

when is thread going to die?

Officially, 2032. Get comfy.

/wrists.

Optimist.

 

[Ron*]

I'm no accoutant so I don't know exactly how it works. I do know the players get paid by day, not by game. I think the taxing aspect might work based on days as well. So a team plays a game that day in that state/province and they pay taxes for that day in that state/province. Could be like Kings fly into New York on a Monday. Play Rangers on Tuesday, practice Wednesday, play Islanders on Thursday and fly out after game. So players pay 3 days worth of tax. Maybe, I don't know taxes.

I am certain it is by day though. I know this since it's well documented how plays get paid when called up on two-way deals. When called up for 5 days the players get a bump in salary for those 5 days. It's why teams against the cap would often send players down between games since that would save them money.

This is pretty much how it works. The accountant then prorates the days based on the tax year (usually, a calendar year). So let's say a player will play in New York 36 days out of a calendar year and 18 more days in California in the same calendar year, he is looking at roughly 10% of his income subject to state taxes in New York and 5% of state taxes in California. That is why athletes look for lucrative deals in states like Texas and Florida, because a higher percentage of their income (higher percentage of home games) will not be taxed stateside.

 

[possesthepuck]

He earnt that money. No complaints here. I'm his number 1 fan

 

[KINGS17]

Wowza!

Federal Income Tax = $880,000

F Me!

Pittsburgh Professional Athletes Fee???? WTF is that? Why don't they just say something like, "You got it, we want it fee"?

 

[bob77]

Similarly, the Ontario boys just went from working mosf of their days in NH, which has no state income tax, to working virtually all their days in CA. Ouch!!

 

[The Tikkanen]

Similarly, the Ontario boys just went from working mosf of their days in NH, which has no state income tax, to working virtually all their days in CA. Ouch!!

Yah, taxes are a big deal and most don't realize it until they start making more and more money. At 42 I'm seriously looking into moving out of state to a place where there is no income tax just because I've grown tired of taxes, no other reason besides that. So for Richards when people see those figures they see a big number but it's attacked down drastically where it's really not that much money to a professional athlete-they usually have a lot more expenses than the average person.

 

[KINGS17]

Yah, taxes are a big deal and most don't realize it until they start making more and more money. At 42 I'm seriously looking into moving out of state to a place where there is no income tax just because I've grown tired of taxes, no other reason besides that. So for Richards when people see those figures they see a big number but it's attacked down drastically where it's really not that much money to a professional athlete-they usually have a lot more expenses than the average person.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. When I retire, I don't think it will be in California.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Pittsburgh Professional Athletes Fee = bend over.

 

[moosehead81]

Pittsburgh Professional Athletes Fee = bend over.

A little off the subject, but that's a classic tax grab almost as bad as the Ontario Health Premium imposed when a politician gets elected on a platform of no new taxes and then charges every family about $650 extra a year and calls it a premium, not a tax. Or even better when they charge a surtax on your taxes, ie., pay an additional tax levy based on the amount of taxes you pay.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Its not a tax! It's a 'fee'.

 

[Herby]

Federal Income Tax = $880,000

F Me!

Pittsburgh Professional Athletes Fee???? WTF is that? Why don't they just say something like, "You got it, we want it fee"?

I wish more stuff like this was leaked, maybe then this ridiculous narrative about certain people "not paying their fair share" would stop.

 

[Reclamation Project]

But we want more!!!

 

[Jtown]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/351090911.html

so finally a teammate comes out and says it. So lets end all the speculation about concussions and what not and focus on what really brought richards to the point of being an ahler.

 

[Little Psycho]

when is thread going to die?

Never.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/351090911.html

so finally a teammate comes out and says it. So lets end all the speculation about concussions and what not and focus on what really brought richards to the point of being an ahler.

Surprise! Sam Carchidi's fixation on Richards continues.

I think it would be foolish to ignore concussions/injury history as having nothing to do with it, though. Richards was our best player as recently as the 2013 playoffs before Bolland blew his head off.

But damn, that's crazy coming from Brown, wonder if we'll hear any other followup.

 

[Ron*]

 

[Trolfoli]

Hey Brown... maybe you should focus on why your game has dropped off a cliff?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Hey Brown... maybe you should focus on why your game has dropped off a cliff?

Agreed, Brown, as captain, should stop speaking to the media in post-game scrums until he starts putting up 50 points again!!!