Mike Richards VIII Kings vs NHLPA

[YP44]

He is a free agent. He can sign anywhere, including the Kings. (Unless the terms of the settlement expressly forbids it; which I am thinking if the NHL is smart they would have forced that clause to be included in the language.)

I would imagine there would be something in the settlement preventing him from becoming a king. I know with a regular buy out the team cannot re-sign the player for what a year?

 

[moosehead81]

If you have a young team do you want him around your young players? No. If you're a rebuilding team do you want him at all? No, what's the point really? If you're a good team do you need him? This is another hand washing by the NHL, everything is fine, no big deal, we just happen to have another player who has substance abuse issues and we are doing NOTHING about it. Why has he not been placed in their super secret substance abuse program?

Do you want a Jared Stoll with the Rangers? Likely not but strange things happen to improve a team.

 

[jimmy1100]

Corrected to include Forbort and exclude McBain.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=108097819&postcount=638

We have $2.148 MM available in cap space. King is on IR but included because he is coming back (hopefully by January). GeneralFanager.com has the correct amounts but added the cap space incorrectly, excluding $90,000 even for some reason.

In any event, we have a little over $2.1 million to play with at the trade deadline, assuming nothing else takes place between now and February.

With King on IR and that 23rd spot open, we are banking extra space too. King's cap hit is ~ $10,833/day. If he is out til Jan 1 (for example) that's about $985k in savings.

$3m of cap space come trade deadline time means that we can acquire player(s) with a cap hit totaling around $9m.

We're in good shape.

 

[onlyalad]

With King on IR and that 23rd spot open, we are banking extra space too. King's cap hit is ~ $10,833/day. If he is out til Jan 1 (for example) that's about $985k in savings.

$3m of cap space come trade deadline time means that we can acquire player(s) with a cap hit totaling around $9m.

We're in good shape.

No savings for IR
You are allowed to go above but no banking that money

 

[justonetime]

This is another hand washing by the NHL, everything is fine, no big deal, we just happen to have another player who has substance abuse issues and we are doing NOTHING about it. Why has he not been placed in their super secret substance abuse program?

I don't understand why people say things like this, but I can only guess it's because they haven't dealt with people addicted to Rx drugs or something similar. It is borderline impossible to help somebody that does not want help, and it's not a simple thing to "get them treatment". There is obviously not a good enough system in the NHL to test for the presence of illegal substances, and while a team or the league can suspect whatever they want there is no way for them to prove his issue and force him to receive treatment. Then there is the issue that sending an addict to treatment doesn't magically cure them, the person has to want it and work for it. Until people reach this stage they usually are in denial about their problem, which is what it sounds like if Mike actually thinks there's other teams interested in him.

You can't help somebody that doesn't want help. That is my belief. It's sad, I've lost friends from similar things. The NHL definitely has systems in place for those who ask for help, but for those who refuse it is very difficult.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

I don't understand why people say things like this, but I can only guess it's because they haven't dealt with people addicted to Rx drugs or something similar. It is borderline impossible to help somebody that does not want help, and it's not a simple thing to "get them treatment". There is obviously not a good enough system in the NHL to test for the presence of illegal substances, and while a team or the league can suspect whatever they want there is no way for them to prove his issue and force him to receive treatment. Then there is the issue that sending an addict to treatment doesn't magically cure them, the person has to want it and work for it. Until people reach this stage they usually are in denial about their problem, which is what it sounds like if Mike actually thinks there's other teams interested in him.

You can't help somebody that doesn't want help. That is my belief. It's sad, I've lost friends from similar things. The NHL definitely has systems in place for those who ask for help, but for those who refuse it is very difficult.

He is also right that MR should be placed in the super secret substance abuse program. It should not have only been a part of his settlement, but the NHLPA should have set the wheels in motion on it months ago

 

[jimmy1100]

No savings for IR
You are allowed to go above but no banking that money

You're correct - I don't know why I repeatedly **** that up.

Nevertheless, still in good shape as our cap space would allow a us to grab a guy with a cap hit of up to $6m.

 

[tsanuri]

No savings for IR
You are allowed to go above but no banking that money

With it being a broken foot I'm not sure why they haven't put him on LTIR. Of course they can do it retro once he hits the time so if he healed they could play him.

 

[The Tikkanen]

He is also right that MR should be placed in the super secret substance abuse program. It should not have only been a part of his settlement, but the NHLPA should have set the wheels in motion on it months ago

Exactly. How in the hell do they have a player get detained at the border in possession of an RX that isn't his and he's not placed into the super secret system? What more does he need to do to get wrangled up and placed somewhere?

 

[The Tikkanen]

Do you want a Jared Stoll with the Rangers? Likely not but strange things happen to improve a team.

Stoll has already been a healthy scratch. He's been playing a minute and a half less than last season and ZERO power play time cause Sutter was too stubborn giving him and Richards PP time last season with abysmal results.

 

[cyclones22]

Sad that Richards will likely never be honored with or show up for a Legends night. The first Cup will always be inextricably linked to his acquisition. Even in 2014 he made some key plays in that run too. I hope he conquers this issue and gets his life back in order.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

so what's happening finally? off the books? not off the books? official cap hit?

i was bored to death by the richards saga so i stopped following for a month now

 

[KopitarFAN]

so what's happening finally? off the books? not off the books? official cap hit?

i was bored to death by the richards saga so i stopped following for a month now

Wow, that is a very favorable settlement, especially when compared to the buyout alternative. At least they made the best out of that situation.

See this post. The right most column is the new amount.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

See this post. The right most column is the new amount.

wow thanks, that's a good deal for LA

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Man, those are really favorable numbers. Good work, Dean.

 

[scryan]

ehhhh,,,,, I am not doing Maths.

But those numbers mean the settlement # was released? How much did Richards get?

(Do I just need to go back a page or two?)

 

[tsanuri]

ehhhh,,,,, i am not doing maths.

But those numbers mean the settlement # was released? How much did richards get?

(do i just need to go back a page or two?)

$10.5m

 

[scryan]

$10.5m

Wow, is that the full buyout amount?

 

[tsanuri]

Wow, is that the full buyout amount?

Nope that would have been around $15M.

 

[scryan]

Nope that would have been around $15M.

Hrm, I thought that was the full amount left on contract was 14ish, and it woulda been 10 on buyout... It would make sense that when settling out of court/arbitration that he would have to take less though...

 

[BamBam1031]

Lamar Odom.

God forbid. I loved Lamar when he was in LA. It would break my heart to see MR go down that road.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Sad that Richards will likely never be honored with or show up for a Legends night. The first Cup will always be inextricably linked to his acquisition. Even in 2014 he made some key plays in that run too. I hope he conquers this issue and gets his life back in order.

100% agreed

 

[AnThGrt]

God forbid. I loved Lamar when he was in LA. It would break my heart to see MR go down that road.

No one should need to end up like that. Only person to blame for Lamar is himself, but he is one of the nicest and most stand up guys you'd ever meet if you meet him in person (I have a couples times). Simply too emotional and too many bad things in his life happened and he took the wrong venue of coping or dealing with it. Would kill me if it happened to MR as he was a top 3 favorite non-king before we landed him. Ironically Gaborik also was in that top three and the 3rd being Jagr who we apparently had interest in once or twice. Drug addiction is a scary thing have worked and been around way too many great people lose themselves to that world.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Sad that Richards will likely never be honored with or show up for a Legends night. The first Cup will always be inextricably linked to his acquisition. Even in 2014 he made some key plays in that run too. I hope he conquers this issue and gets his life back in order.

Ultimately that's the part that gets to me as well, now that the ashes have settled.

I loved that guy, and I can't believe where he's ended up.

 

[Johnny Utah]

So they owed him 21 without a buyout, a buyout would have been 14 and instead LA ended up paying 10k?

Correct me please.