Mike Richards VIII Kings vs NHLPA

[theMajor]

Mike Richards clearly had problems as a member of the Flyers, if Alexandre Burrows playing on the other side of the continent knew about it, you can bet Kings management did as well. The Kings clearly didn't care about it when they made the trade, that could be for a variety of reasons..

1. Drug use is so rampant in the NHL that it's a non-issue acquiring a player with a problem.

2. The Kings thought they could fix the problem.

3. The Kings were so excited to be getting a player of MR's caliber with a bargain contract that they decided to just look the other way.

This is my only issue with DL's handing of all of this, I think in a way Dean's comments are an attempt to deflect any blame from himself, and I don't think that's fair. The Kings clearly had no problems acquiring the player and committing $50m in salary to him when he was a likely drug user playing at a high level, but then they tried to play the victim card when he became the worst player on the team. This is one area where Kings ownership should really grill Dean when it comes to the handling of Mike Richards from the start.

didnt Deaner admit that he saw the warning signs and just refused to believe them?

here:

"I heard the rumors that Mike might have some off-ice issues, but I refused to believe that they were true despite some obvious signs,” wrote Lombardi.

I fail to see how the Kings are playing the 'victim' card when it was Richards decision to take drugs in the first place. Dean gave him the benefit of the doubt more than once and Richards **** on him. How can you see it any other way? Dean isnt the bad guy here...
even Bill Daly said the Kings had an outright cause for terminating the contract and stood a good chance at winning in arbitration.

“In our view, the Kings had a ‘Bona Fide' opportunity to win this grievance,” Daly said. “In that case, they would have no cap hit at all. This way, there's some penalty.”

 

[MsMeow]

didnt Deaner admit that he saw the warning signs and just refused to believe them?

here:


I fail to see how the Kings are playing the 'victim' card when it was Richards decision to take drugs in the first place. Dean gave him the benefit of the doubt more than once and Richards **** on him. How can you see it any other way? Dean isnt the bad guy here...
even Bill Daly said the Kings had an outright cause for terminating the contract and stood a good chance at winning in arbitration.

Of course Daly will say he thought the League would win, there is no way he'd say he thought the PA would. That's like Sutter saying he expects the Canucks to win tonight.

As far as the League goes, thinking it's 20 guys is a joke. Stoll had a ton of drugs on him in Vegas at the end of season party, not just enough for him and one or two others. If they really want to get serious about it - and I think they should, start testing for more drugs and more frequently.

 

[123slam]

Of course Daly will say he thought the League would win, there is no way he'd say he thought the PA would. That's like Sutter saying he expects the Canucks to win tonight.

As far as the League goes, thinking it's 20 guys is a joke. Stoll had a ton of drugs on him in Vegas at the end of season party, not just enough for him and one or two others. If they really want to get serious about it - and I think they should, start testing for more drugs and more frequently.

He didn't have THAT much. I've seen that much spread among a group of 3-4 in Vegas and they aren't "addicts".

 

[KINGS17]

Wrong thread.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Wrong thread.

Say it anyway

 

[Captain Mittens*]

HA HA! Suck it other teams who are privately fuming!

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on...ly-fuming-over-kings-mike-richards-settlement

Privately, other teams are screaming bloody murder and are threatening to make an issue about it at December's Board of Governors' meeting. But the NHL is not sympathetic. In a phone conversation, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly pointed out Article 50 of the CBA does have a mechanism for settlements.

“In our view, the Kings had a ‘Bona Fide' opportunity to win this grievance,” Daly said. “In that case, they would have no cap hit at all. This way, there's some penalty.”

 

[KINGS17]

I still think Richards was/is facing issues crossing the U.S. border. If he can't cross the border, he would be in material breach of the contract IMO.

I am beginning to think he is lucky Dean was willing to settle and not take this thing to the mat.

To all the CBA worshippers that believed every possible situation is clearly ajudicated in CBA: Where is your Eric Macromarshmellow now!?!

 

[Bandit]

I still think Richards was/is facing issues crossing the U.S. border. If he can't cross the border, he would be in material breach of the contract IMO.

I am beginning to think he is lucky Dean was willing to settle and not take this thing to the mat.

To all the CBA worshippers that believed every possible situation is clearly ajudicated in CBA: Where is your Eric Macromarshmellow now!?!

Sucking on a pond scum slushie.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Sucking on a pond scum slushie.

 

[kingsfan28]

HA HA! Suck it other teams who are privately fuming!

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on...ly-fuming-over-kings-mike-richards-settlement

Of course they are. They're trying to get out from under bad contracts too, you know the ones they gave out to circumvent the cap.

 

[Herby]

Well the other teams and fans are idiots, but lets be honest here, if this had been the Rangers or Hawks who did this there would be outrage in the "Around the League" thread, let's not pretend otherwise.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Well the other teams and fans are idiots, but lets be honest here, if this had been the Rangers or Hawks who did this there would be outrage in the "Around the League" thread, let's not pretend otherwise.

Disagree, I gave Toronto all the props for dumping Clarkson on the Blue Jackets so they could eat the insurance cost of Horton and shed salary.

 

[KopitarFAN]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/salary-cap-ramifications-of-mike-richards-settlement/

Some finality about Richards.

Here are the cap ramifications:

2015-16 is $3.12 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $1.8 million payout.
2016-17 to 2019-20 is $1.57 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $250,000 payout.
2020-21 is $700,000
2021-22 and 2022-23 are $900,000.
2023-24 and 2024-25 are $700,000.
2025-26 to 2028-29 are $600,000.
2029-30 and 2030-31 are $500,000.
It ends in 2031-32 at $400,000.

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So basically, it's insignificant except this year.

 

[funky]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/salary-cap-ramifications-of-mike-richards-settlement/

Some finality about Richards.

Here are the cap ramifications:

2015-16 is $3.12 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $1.8 million payout.
2016-17 to 2019-20 is $1.57 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $250,000 payout.
2020-21 is $700,000
2021-22 and 2022-23 are $900,000.
2023-24 and 2024-25 are $700,000.
2025-26 to 2028-29 are $600,000.
2029-30 and 2030-31 are $500,000.
It ends in 2031-32 at $400,000.

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So basically, it's insignificant except this year.

Little higher then I expected for this year but overall not bad. Thanks for the update.

 

[Ron*]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/salary-cap-ramifications-of-mike-richards-settlement/

Some finality about Richards.

Here are the cap ramifications:

2015-16 is $3.12 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $1.8 million payout.
2016-17 to 2019-20 is $1.57 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $250,000 payout.
2020-21 is $700,000
2021-22 and 2022-23 are $900,000.
2023-24 and 2024-25 are $700,000.
2025-26 to 2028-29 are $600,000.
2029-30 and 2030-31 are $500,000.
It ends in 2031-32 at $400,000.

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So basically, it's insignificant except this year.

Thanks for the find. I will update the salary chart later this evening, since I don't have to worry about watching the Dodgers celebration.

 

[Fishhead]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/salary-cap-ramifications-of-mike-richards-settlement/

Some finality about Richards.

Here are the cap ramifications:

2015-16 is $3.12 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $1.8 million payout.
2016-17 to 2019-20 is $1.57 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $250,000 payout.
2020-21 is $700,000
2021-22 and 2022-23 are $900,000.
2023-24 and 2024-25 are $700,000.
2025-26 to 2028-29 are $600,000.
2029-30 and 2030-31 are $500,000.
It ends in 2031-32 at $400,000.

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So basically, it's insignificant except this year.

It's good for us in that next year, it gives more flexibility to retain guys.

It's bad for us in that there isn't a lot of space to add at the deadline.

But it's good for us because we can carry a smaller roster and save up more cap.

But it's bad for us because other fans say hurtful things

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh I can't wait for the outpouring of whining when other fans find out about these numbers. Not like it really benefits the Kings in the immediate future anyhow.

 

[kingsfan28]

It's good for us in that next year, it gives more flexibility to retain guys.

It's bad for us in that there isn't a lot of space to add at the deadline.

But it's good for us because we can carry a smaller roster and save up more cap.

But it's bad for us because other fans say hurtful things

Winning,hard hits,Stanley Cups,playing by the rules, winning 7 game series, playoff sweeps seems to bring the hurtful feelings.

 

[kingsfan28]

Disagree, I gave Toronto all the props for dumping Clarkson on the Blue Jackets so they could eat the insurance cost of Horton and shed salary.

You could also add Pronger contract being traded to ARZ(?) to get him off the Flyers books. He's still being paid millions by ARZ as well as by the NHL.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Will "Cap Space" be etched on the Stanley Cup whenever the Kings win the Cup any time between now and 2031?

 

[Chain]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/salary-cap-ramifications-of-mike-richards-settlement/

Some finality about Richards.

Here are the cap ramifications:

2015-16 is $3.12 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $1.8 million payout.
2016-17 to 2019-20 is $1.57 million. That's the cap recapture plus a $250,000 payout.
2020-21 is $700,000
2021-22 and 2022-23 are $900,000.
2023-24 and 2024-25 are $700,000.
2025-26 to 2028-29 are $600,000.
2029-30 and 2030-31 are $500,000.
It ends in 2031-32 at $400,000.

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So basically, it's insignificant except this year.

Definitely better than it would've been otherwise. In 10 years, with where the cap will be at, 700k wont be next to nothing of a hit.

 

[kingsfan28]

30 Thoughts: The aftermath of the Mike Richards settlement

Freedman touches up this.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-the-aftermath-of-the-mike-richards-settlement/

Richards, his agency (Newport) and the NHLPA were very unhappy with Dean Lombardi’s comments to The Los Angeles Times, but chose not to throw gasoline on the fire with a statement of their own. No doubt they were angry it happened while legal proceedings continue. The GM stayed on the sidelines as Kings Vice-President of Hockey Operations and Legal Affairs Jeff Solomon handled the negotiations.

Sure they're unhappy, they just lost millions they think they're owed and don't want the ugly details brought out. But as Daly pointed out , the Kings had a strong case and Richards and co may have been left with nothing.

 

[CTKingsFan]

Let's here for it the Royal Mounted Police! Without them this wouldn't be possible. Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray!

 

[Herby]

I'm happy that Richards is going to get some of his money, he didn't deserve to lose it all but seriously what an embarrassing way to likely end your career.

I don't know if I'll ever see a player in any sport fall so far so quickly.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I'm happy that Richards is going to get some of his money, he didn't deserve to lose it all but seriously what an embarrassing way to likely end your career.

I don't know if I'll ever see a player in any sport fall so far so quickly.

Probably not as bad as Richards but Heatley's fall from grace was monumental. Wade Redden also went from being a top pairing dman on a team that reached the Cup Finals to being a minor league defenseman shortly thereafter.