Value of: Mike Matheson to Vancouver

[Qwijibo]

Would do Matheson for Desharnais + 1st + 3rd/4th

What are you adding to take 2cyears of Deshsrnais? The guy is an overpaid 6/7 D. Allvin screwed up with that signing, Montreal isn't handing him a get out of cap jail free card without compensation

 

[viceroy]

Do you think you won't remember it in the future? Memory is fleeting, after all. To add to that, the human memory is faulty, on it's best days.

Also Petterson got concussed pretty hard there. He probably doesn't remember much of what happened that day.

Rutherford traded for him before, wouldn't surrprise me if he did again. Matheson needs out of Montreal, the dog and one trick pony show.

So from MTL's dog and pony to Vancouver's circus act? So who do you think Matheson is gonna side with? Miller or Petterson? You have to choose right? before you step in the locker area?

He seems like the fall guy, which is what any local player becomes if he struggles. Which is why quality homegrown talent seems more rarified than any other time in history.

How to become a contender is probably a topic of intense debate in Montreal.

What are you on about? Matheson ain't the whipping boy. If anything the local media were crapping on Dach and Caufield. However Dach's coming back from a major injury and he just had a 2 goal game. Caufield's not scoring as much but he is getting assists. Last season they were throwing rocks at Anderson and Gallagher and now they're both doing much better this season. They've given up on hating Primeau and Dvorak. They know they suck, management knows they suck but their contracts are up this year so whatevs.

I know you guys think that MTL fans are close to marching up and down Ste-Catherine street and calling for heads but not at all. The fans love watching Hutson play and improve daily, heck Heineman is doing pretty solid as a rookie too. There's a reason our AHL team arena is packed. The people can see our prospects doing well.

...he's probably playing too many minutes right now and an injury was probably inevitable.

Yeah the last thing Hughes needs is help. When he gets back they should just have him averaging 29min per night.

 

[ole ole]

I think that Savard would be a better fit for the Nucks.

 

[Miller Time]

For that, Vancouver should get at least 15% retention.

That might work if they kept Desharnais

 

[elitepete]

I think that Savard would be a better fit for the Nucks.

Montreal has zero defensemen that interest the Canucks. Sorry.

 

[Guy Larose]

Montreal has zero defensemen that interest the Canucks. Sorry.

Hutson, Ghule? Yeah right buddy

 

[canuckslover10]

Hutson, Ghule? Yeah right buddy

Who needs Hutson when you have Forbert.

 

[Qwijibo]

Montreal has zero defensemen that interest the Canucks. Sorry.

If you say so. Outside Hughes and the injured Hronek the Canucks have one of the worst D corps in the league

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

My bad. Teams are probably lining for a smaller player who has 2 goals on the season.

No it's because he had 24 goals at ES last year, pretty sure GM's aren't dumb enough to use this year and this year only as a basis for value.......

Just ignore the fact that he scored those goals on a completely unrepeatable 20% shooting percentage. His play this year proves last year was a total outlier. They should have traded last year when his value was artificially high. Instead they gave him a contract that takes him close to the negative value realm

Yah he's shown value since his rookie, season, if you watched him you'd know.

Not saying he's a superstar but he has value.

Montreal has zero defensemen that interest the Canucks. Sorry.

For the price fanboys on here will ask sure, but in general that's not true

 

[elitepete]

If you say so. Outside Hughes and the injured Hronek the Canucks have one of the worst D corps in the league

And we still have no use for Montreals’s defensemen. Imagine how bad Montreal’s D must be.

 

[Qwijibo]

And we still have no use for Montreals’s defensemen. Imagine how bad Montreal’s D must be.

If you say so.

 

[Qwijibo]

No it's because he had 24 goals at ES last year, pretty sure GM's aren't dumb enough to use this year and this year only as a basis for value.......


Yah he's shown value since his rookie, season, if you watched him you'd know.

Not saying he's a superstar but he has value.


For the price fanboys on here will ask sure, but in general that's not true

I don't think.hes as bad as he's shown this season, just like he's nowhere as good as last seasons illusion. The problem.is he's an undersized bottom 6 pjsyer with a contract that was a clear overpay. Yeah, he has skill, but not enough to get a full time top 6 player and hes being paid too much (starting next season) to be a valuable bottom 6 player. There's a reason that he's being thrown into practically every proposal coming from a Canuvks fan. He and Desharnais are a waste of valuable cap space.

 

[wetcoast]

Desharnais toughness is not needed in Montreal. We got heavyweight X and 4 more like Desharnais. Struble, Guhle, Anderson and little Pezzetta. Mailman and Little X are sharpening their teeth in the AHL.

Skill wise he doesn't match Struble and he is currently making paper airplanes in the stands.

Your first is one of 2 we have that likely higher picks.

Hoglander is too small and we already have two high end small guys.

It isn't about trading Matheson, it's about Canucks have nothing we really need.

Well if you don't want to trade Mike we'll take Adam Engstrom off your hands before you lose him to waivers, heck I'd even offer Hoglander to you as he is a very good motor agitator who can score.

 

[VanillaCoke]

If you say so.

C'est vrai.

 

[Jumptheshark]

The Canucks are desperate for D but surely they can do better than Matheson?

I still remember when he body slammed Pettersson as a rookie and gave him a concussion because he was salty that Pettersson dangled him.

I am not a fan of Matteson. But I do like how depending on who is talking--you would think Matheson was a Norris trophy winner

 

[Qwijibo]

Well if you don't want to trade Mike we'll take Adam Engstrom off your hands before you lose him to waivers, heck I'd even offer Hoglander to you as he is a very good motor agitator who can score.

Engstrom is waiver exempt. So Montreal will pass on the $3m healthy scratch

 

[HabsAddict]

Well if you don't want to trade Mike we'll take Adam Engstrom off your hands before you lose him to waivers, heck I'd even offer Hoglander to you as he is a very good motor agitator who can score.

No.

 

[RationalExpectations]

And we still have no use for Montreals’s defensemen. Imagine how bad Montreal’s D must be.

As a fan of both teams, VAN Defense should be better than MTL. However Hronek has been injured and there is a clear lack of puck moving Dman after Hughes. I truly think Matheson on the second pairing would be a great fit for the Canucks.

 

[Theodore450]

Matheson for a two 2nd rounders gets it done

 

[Qwijibo]

Matheson for a two 2nd rounders gets it done

I don't think it does. I doubt they're looking to move him this season. It would take a home run offer to get him this year. Two seconds doesn't do ir

 

[ole ole]

Well if you don't want to trade Mike we'll take Adam Engstrom off your hands before you lose him to waivers, heck I'd even offer Hoglander to you as he is a very good motor agitator who can score.

No room ,use or want for Hoglander even for free.

 

[FerrisRox]

I don't think he's worth nearly what you're talking about.

Are you serious?

You don't think the Canadiens could get a better offer than Hoglander, a 2nd or a 3rd for Mike Matheson?

You are completely out to lunch.

Why the hell would Vancouver spend that amount of picks for him

That’s insane

By "that amount of picks" you mean... one?

The "offer" was Hoglander plus a second or a third.

 

[Benstheman]

Vancouver should sell and rebuild. They suck.

 

[Breakers]

Are you serious?

You don't think the Canadiens could get a better offer than Hoglander, a 2nd or a 3rd for Mike Matheson?

You are completely out to lunch.



By "that amount of picks" you mean... one?

The "offer" was Hoglander plus a second or a third.

See the first page how he said “edit” I overvalued him

It was more in his original offer

 

[John Mandalorian]

That might work if they kept Desharnais

The 15% would be a condition that of getting the 1st. Drop the 2nd.