Podcast (Audio) Mike Keenan - SportsLit

[SportsLit]

Hey All,
Neil Acharya co-host of SportsLit Podcast, Mike Keenan relased his memoir Iron Mike today (Oct. 1), spoke with him ahead of its release. As we know, he was behind the bench in Vancouver for two seasons in the late 90s. Perhaps our interview may be of interest to you.

Thanks,

Neil

Iron Mike

Mike Keenan is a madman. Mike Keenan has a method. All things considered, both descriptions are part and parcel of a coaching career in which he angered many, and accomplished a great deal. 30 years ago he won the Stanley Cup and then abruptly parted with the New York Rangers, the team he l

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[rypper]

I think he might be persona non grata in Vancouver only behind Messier and Benning.

 

[Hit the post]

I think he might be persona non grata in Vancouver only behind Messier and Benning.

Benning was just incompetent as a GM. Keenan (& Messier) was a poor excuse for a human being.

 

[SportsLit]

Benning was just incompetent as a GM. Keenan (& Messier) was a poor excuse for a human being.

The book does cover his time in Vancouver in the chapter titled A Curious 14 Months

 

[Vector]

The book does cover his time in Vancouver in the chapter titled A Curious 14 Months

I’m already angry.

 

[HairyKneel]

Keenan was vital in helping clean up the mess Pat left post 1994.

 

[David71]

he did more harm than good in the 90s treated his players like shit. being a coach/gm that was a players worst nightmare, i remember he aquired a few players 1 month and the next month or 3 4 weeks later they're traded.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

Yah zero f*cks given about MK. Didn't even come close to my 'man I hate that guy scale'.

Truly a nonentity in this market for me. Part of the blurry dark background of some bleak seasons and nothing more.

 

[HairyKneel]

he did more harm than good in the 90s treated his players like shit. being a coach/gm that was a players worst nightmare, i remember he aquired a few players 1 month and the next month or 3 4 weeks later they're traded.

And he made an absolutely brilliant trade running 16 out of town. Yep he was mean to Grant Ledyard and a couple other scrubs. The guy I was pissed he dealt was Gelinas. That team was garbage fire when he got here. And BTW Brian Burke has done some pretty horrendous things to players......like Peter Zezel for instance.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

And he made an absolutely brilliant trade running 16 out of town. Yep he was mean to Grant Ledyard and a couple other scrubs. The guy I was pissed he dealt was Gelinas. That team was garbage fire when he got here. And BTW Brian Burke has done some pretty horrendous things to players......like Peter Zezel for instance.

Keenan shat on the team and was doing what ever Messier wanted.

Together they ran the team to the ground.

 

[HairyKneel]

Keenan shat on the team and was doing what ever Messier wanted.

Together they ran the team to the ground.

The team was a garbage fire when he got here. You clearly weren't a fan back then. You might not like his methods or his personality but you obviously didn't follow it that closely to think THEY ran the team into the ground. It was a pile of dogshit in the fall of 1997.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

The team was a garbage fire when he got here. You clearly weren't a fan back then. You might not like his methods or his personality but you obviously didn't follow it that closely to think THEY ran the team into the ground. It was a pile of dogshit in the fall of 1997.

I was a fan back then.

Are you a fan of a team currently?

He drove the team to the ground. Anything else is idiotic reversionistic history. Probably by someone who admits to owning clown costumes and makeup.

He tried to build the team around Messier and what followed was a unintentional rebuild.

"his methods..." jeesus f***in christ...

 

[HairyKneel]

Learn to read Tiger. The team was crap when he got here. You may not have liked his methods, but he inherited a team into the ground. The rest of your little hissy fit is adorable. Pretty tough little guy.

 

[SportsLit]

Here is an excerpt from the book:

With some injuries and no Pavel, the Canucks were an ordinary 9–10–1. On November 25, we
were in Toronto, down 3–1 midway through the third period. I
pulled Garth Snow while we were on the power play. We hit the
post, but Maple Leafs defenceman Dmitri Yushkevich scored a
short-handed, empty-net goal. We lost the game, 5–1.
Burke was livid. Again, my retort was that the team had no
offence, and we needed a spark. Get me some players.

 

[HighAndTight]

Thanks for Luongo.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don't think the two concepts here are mutually exclusive. The team, while having assembled some high profile pieces, was not doing well. And Mike Keenan was not the remedy for the team's issues.

Yes, the team needed a rebuild. And yes, the Linden trade - in hindsight - is arguably one of the best in franchise history. But the damage Keenan (and Messier) did to the franchise, the brand, and the market, took a number of years to recover from. Those two are - rightly - two of the most pilloried figures in GM history. I think Jack Gordon and Jim Benning might be the only others that come close.

EDIT: I'll throw @MS a bone with a hat tip to Brian Burke for his work after he left the Canucks.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Learn to read Tiger. The team was crap when he got here. You may not have liked his methods, but he inherited a team into the ground. The rest of your little hissy fit is adorable. Pretty tough little guy.

Get in your clown gear keyboard warrior.

Here is an impossible task for you.

Write something that makes even little bit of sense. Something that doesnt make me feel embarrased for you.

 

[MS]

I don't think the two concepts here are mutually exclusive. The team, while having assembled some high profile pieces, was not doing well. And Mike Keenan was not the remedy for the team's issues.

Yes, the team needed a rebuild. And yes, the Linden trade - in hindsight - is arguably one of the best in franchise history. But the damage Keenan (and Messier) did to the franchise, the brand, and the market, took a number of years to recover from. Those two are - rightly - two of the most pilloried figures in GM history. I think Jack Gordon and Jim Benning might be the only others that come close.

EDIT: I'll throw @MS a bone with a hat tip to Brian Burke for his work after he left the Canucks.

Pretty much this.

The team obviously wasn't in a great place when Keenan got here and in the end the fact that he inadvertently burned the team to the ground did provide a good space to grow from in ensuing years ... but that does not mean that anything about what he did here was actually positive or contributed to the team in the way it was intended to, other than the big return on the Linden trade.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Guy was an ass, as was messier. Worst moment in cunucks history at that point, which was impressive, because up to then we had only maybe 5 winning seasons. Benning out did him, though.

Learn to read Tiger. The team was crap when he got here. You may not have liked his methods, but he inherited a team into the ground. The rest of your little hissy fit is adorable. Pretty tough little guy.

pretty childish.

 

[HairyKneel]

Get in your clown gear keyboard warrior.

Here is an impossible task for you.

Write something that makes even little bit of sense. Something that doesnt make me feel embarrased for you.

Wow angry little guy here. Small man syndrome.

Guy was an ass, as was messier. Worst moment in cunucks history at that point, which was impressive, because up to then we had only maybe 5 winning seasons. Benning out did him, though.


pretty childish.

But his outbursts are just fine. Makes sense.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Wow angry little guy here. Small man syndrome.

Is commenting on your height something that would affect you?

How the f*** is calling someone short your go to insult? Has anyone ever reacted to it in any way?

You are the only 12 year old professional clown Im aware of. So at least you have that going for you.

 

[HairyKneel]

Is commenting on your height something that would affect you?

How the f*** is calling someone short your go to insult? Has anyone ever reacted to it in any way?

You are the only 12 year old professional clown Im aware of. So at least you have that going for you.

I'm not attempting to insult you. I'm just commenting on your anger and hostility. Munchkins generally are little. You should dial the anger in a bit though.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I’m already angry.

I wonder, does it include pulling the goalie in a tie game?

 

[Vector]

I wonder, does it include pulling the goalie in a tie game?

In the 2nd period too. That was so outrageously stupid.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

In the 2nd period too. That was so outrageously stupid.

Guy was a clown. Pat Quinn built this team from the ground up.