Player Discussion Mika Zibanejad

[NYR2007]

We are screwed if every season our first line center is gonna play like this. Is anyone else alarmed

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I agree that they need to move Zib into Panarin's spot on the pp....panarin doesnt shoot near enough, he can pass from somewhere else.

 

[SA16]

I agree that they need to move Zib into Panarin's spot on the pp....panarin doesnt shoot near enough, he can pass from somewhere else.

Yea they're only 7th in the league in PP% they should change things up just so they get more shots

 

[tomobson]

Yea they're only 7th in the league in PP% they should change things up just so they get more shots

They work when they shoot the puck at Kreider. They need to put a target on his jersey.

 

[GbgRanger]

I agree that they need to move Zib into Panarin's spot on the pp....panarin doesnt shoot near enough, he can pass from somewhere else.

Definetely, zib is much better on the left boards than in bumper. Panarin can play both sides and it would be nice to limit stromes puck touches by placing him in the bumper.

Preferably take strome out and place kakko in the bumper

 

[Jauffre]

♫ Sup HF, guess who's back?

Downloaded, installed a new face-off hack.

Long black hair, still lookin' slick.

Struck down the Bolts, even scored a hat-trick.

Read all your posts, a vegan no more.

Now watching me skate is no longer a chore.

Red meat now, iron in my veins.

Weight up to 210, hello muscle gains!

Now watch me score in bunches, I'll be PPG.

Don't think I'm a 1C? Ask @EdJovanovski ♫

DJ Mika Z, reppin' the SWE. See you tomorrow, at 7 ET.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Now sitting at 30 pts in 33 games. I'd imagine he'll make alot of fans in here eat some crow in the second half of the season.

 

[Kupo]

Now sitting at 30 pts in 33 games. I'd imagine he'll make alot of fans in here eat some crow in the second half of the season.

If he was eating crow from the start of the….

Nevermind. Shits getting old.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I really hope Gallant keeps him where he is when Panarin comes back. We can maximize everyone's game.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Dude is back

 

[duhmetreE]

Now sitting at 30 pts in 33 games. I'd imagine he'll make alot of fans in here eat some crow in the second half of the season.

Yeah.... people aren't complaining about what he might do in the future... it's how he's played the first quarter of the season

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

He's a streaky player. Is what it is. I can't take it seriously when the "Zibby sucks" crap pops up because I'd think hockey fans would have enough awareness about it. He also scores big goals, feasts on bad teams (which you need because everyone who is in the playoffs is partially in the playoffs because they win games they are supposed to win), and plays big minutes even when he's not on a hot streak. I'm more than satisfied with the contract he was given. You need some roster consistency over a long period of (hopefully) competitive hockey ala Boston.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Mika is miscast as streaky.

He was very consistent from start to finish in 2018-19 and 19-20 (his goal scoring really popped off in Feb and March, but he was a PPG or better in every month that season.)

He blew last year for 25 games before picking it up. He hasn't been great this season either (even though the production has been decent.) Hes been better lately, lets hope that continues.

 

[The New Russian Five]

He's scoring more again, but more importantly, he's moving his feet, engaged, and winning battles again. He's got his mojo back.

 

[Icelevel]

Ok a couple things here. (I follow zib since he was stolen from us to feel pain and joy as a reminder of the unpredictable roller coaster life is )

“Going vegan” is more of an environmental, biological, animal rights based thing. The diet portion of the lifestyle is a consequence.

Eating meat does not grow muscles.

A bull, rhino, gorilla, elephant are some of the strongest animals on the planet. They don’t eat meat. Some uneducated humans think that eating a strong animal gives strength rather than eating what that animal eats.

Eating meat and dairy creates inflammation, while eating fruits and vegetables decreases it.

Eating meat and dairy increases cholesterol. Plant foods don’t contain cholesterol.
Saturated fats found in animal foods inhibit oxygen flow and clog arteries. Plant foods do the opposite.

As long as a “vegan” is eating enough food, they will be healthier than before they were “vegan” maintaining the same fitness routine. Just as strong or stronger.

A lot of posters here spewing out misinformation that doesn’t help anyone.
Being vegan doesn’t mean weaker. (See other strong animal examples)

Look up vegan bodybuilder or vegan muscle. Do they have enough muscle for the nhl?

just as one example, this guy Nimai Delgado has NEVER eaten meat in his life.

Patrik Baboumian is another example of strength on a proper plant based diet.

Lots of examples of strong successful vegan athletes. To argue that because one guy here has a little cool streak during covid means you gotta eat your meat is…well, a meathead thing to say.

Zib is awesome. Hope he keeps it up.

 

[romba]

Ok a couple things here. (I follow zib since he was stolen from us to feel pain and joy as a reminder of the unpredictable roller coaster life is )

“Going vegan” is more of an environmental, biological, animal rights based thing. The diet portion of the lifestyle is a consequence.

Eating meat does not grow muscles.

A bull, rhino, gorilla, elephant are some of the strongest animals on the planet. They don’t eat meat. Some uneducated humans think that eating a strong animal gives strength rather than eating what that animal eats.

Eating meat and dairy creates inflammation, while eating fruits and vegetables decreases it.

Eating meat and dairy increases cholesterol. Plant foods don’t contain cholesterol.
Saturated fats found in animal foods inhibit oxygen flow and clog arteries. Plant foods do the opposite.

As long as a “vegan” is eating enough food, they will be healthier than before they were “vegan” maintaining the same fitness routine. Just as strong or stronger.

A lot of posters here spewing out misinformation that doesn’t help anyone.
Being vegan doesn’t mean weaker. (See other strong animal examples)

Look up vegan bodybuilder or vegan muscle. Do they have enough muscle for the nhl?

just as one example, this guy Nimai Delgado has NEVER eaten meat in his life.
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Patrik Baboumian is another example of strength on a proper plant based diet.
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Lots of examples of strong successful vegan athletes. To argue that because one guy here has a little cool streak during covid means you gotta eat your meat is…well, a meathead thing to say.

Zib is awesome. Hope he keeps it up.

counterargument:

 

[Jauffre]

Ok a couple things here. (I follow zib since he was stolen from us to feel pain and joy as a reminder of the unpredictable roller coaster life is )

“Going vegan” is more of an environmental, biological, animal rights based thing. The diet portion of the lifestyle is a consequence.

Eating meat does not grow muscles.

A bull, rhino, gorilla, elephant are some of the strongest animals on the planet. They don’t eat meat. Some uneducated humans think that eating a strong animal gives strength rather than eating what that animal eats.

Eating meat and dairy creates inflammation, while eating fruits and vegetables decreases it.

Eating meat and dairy increases cholesterol. Plant foods don’t contain cholesterol.
Saturated fats found in animal foods inhibit oxygen flow and clog arteries. Plant foods do the opposite.

As long as a “vegan” is eating enough food, they will be healthier than before they were “vegan” maintaining the same fitness routine. Just as strong or stronger.

A lot of posters here spewing out misinformation that doesn’t help anyone.
Being vegan doesn’t mean weaker. (See other strong animal examples)

Look up vegan bodybuilder or vegan muscle. Do they have enough muscle for the nhl?

just as one example, this guy Nimai Delgado has NEVER eaten meat in his life.
View attachment 495477

Patrik Baboumian is another example of strength on a proper plant based diet.
View attachment 495478

Lots of examples of strong successful vegan athletes. To argue that because one guy here has a little cool streak during covid means you gotta eat your meat is…well, a meathead thing to say.

Zib is awesome. Hope he keeps it up.

Agreed, going vegan should be done for ethical & environmental reasons only. And I applaud it honestly, I think it's great. But then we must supplement to maintain optimal health. We are omnivorous animals, plain and simple. Nobody said you can't get jacked eating only plants like the juice-head Vegan boy you posted a picture of.

Modern technology has allowed us to synthesize vitamins and extract omega-3s from fish to make fish oil supplements. Without some supplementation, a vegan diet lacks adequate amounts of healthy n-3 fats like EPA & DHA.

We can make some EPA/DHA internally through a conversion from ALA , a healthy fat from plants. But this is seen as inefficient. How does one get B12 without incorporating fortified foods or some dairy? What about creatine?

Thank god for supplements huh?

Edit: Is anyone seriously arguing this about Zibanejad? I was under the impression that it's tongue-in-cheek. The guy just got a fat contract and started off slow.. that's all.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Edit: Is anyone seriously arguing this about Zibanejad? I was under the impression that it's tongue-in-cheek. The guy just got a fat contract and started off slow.. that's all.

Generally, it has gotten really hard to tell, wether or not, something was meant tongue in cheek. Everything is possible these days.

 

[Peltz]

Definetely, zib is much better on the left boards than in bumper. Panarin can play both sides and it would be nice to limit stromes puck touches by placing him in the bumper.

Preferably take strome out and place kakko in the bumper

I can get behind this setup. Strome could be on PP2.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

Ok a couple things here. (I follow zib since he was stolen from us to feel pain and joy as a reminder of the unpredictable roller coaster life is )

“Going vegan” is more of an environmental, biological, animal rights based thing. The diet portion of the lifestyle is a consequence.

Eating meat does not grow muscles.

A bull, rhino, gorilla, elephant are some of the strongest animals on the planet. They don’t eat meat. Some uneducated humans think that eating a strong animal gives strength rather than eating what that animal eats.

Eating meat and dairy creates inflammation, while eating fruits and vegetables decreases it.

Eating meat and dairy increases cholesterol. Plant foods don’t contain cholesterol.
Saturated fats found in animal foods inhibit oxygen flow and clog arteries. Plant foods do the opposite.

As long as a “vegan” is eating enough food, they will be healthier than before they were “vegan” maintaining the same fitness routine. Just as strong or stronger.

A lot of posters here spewing out misinformation that doesn’t help anyone.
Being vegan doesn’t mean weaker. (See other strong animal examples)

Look up vegan bodybuilder or vegan muscle. Do they have enough muscle for the nhl?

just as one example, this guy Nimai Delgado has NEVER eaten meat in his life.
View attachment 495477

Patrik Baboumian is another example of strength on a proper plant based diet.
View attachment 495478

Lots of examples of strong successful vegan athletes. To argue that because one guy here has a little cool streak during covid means you gotta eat your meat is…well, a meathead thing to say.

Zib is awesome. Hope he keeps it up.

Nimai Delgado is absolutely on steroids that physique is not possible naturally

 

[duhmetreE]

Ok a couple things here. (I follow zib since he was stolen from us to feel pain and joy as a reminder of the unpredictable roller coaster life is )

“Going vegan” is more of an environmental, biological, animal rights based thing. The diet portion of the lifestyle is a consequence.

Eating meat does not grow muscles.

A bull, rhino, gorilla, elephant are some of the strongest animals on the planet. They don’t eat meat. Some uneducated humans think that eating a strong animal gives strength rather than eating what that animal eats.

Eating meat and dairy creates inflammation, while eating fruits and vegetables decreases it.

Eating meat and dairy increases cholesterol. Plant foods don’t contain cholesterol.
Saturated fats found in animal foods inhibit oxygen flow and clog arteries. Plant foods do the opposite.

As long as a “vegan” is eating enough food, they will be healthier than before they were “vegan” maintaining the same fitness routine. Just as strong or stronger.

A lot of posters here spewing out misinformation that doesn’t help anyone.
Being vegan doesn’t mean weaker. (See other strong animal examples)

Look up vegan bodybuilder or vegan muscle. Do they have enough muscle for the nhl?

just as one example, this guy Nimai Delgado has NEVER eaten meat in his life.
View attachment 495477

Patrik Baboumian is another example of strength on a proper plant based diet.
View attachment 495478

Lots of examples of strong successful vegan athletes. To argue that because one guy here has a little cool streak during covid means you gotta eat your meat is…well, a meathead thing to say.

Zib is awesome. Hope he keeps it up.

so what you're saying, Zibs should take steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. I'm with it.

Throw some EPO in there as well.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I feel like Mika's game can be judged solely on how well he is taking the one-timer.

When he's shanking/flubbing it, shooting wide it or is just off a little his entire game, skating, passing - everything seems to be off.

When he's driving it pure, everything is in sync. His focus, speed, skillset. He gets that extra bend in his back when he carries the puck...

Obviously it's nice to have that off-side wall available on the PP when Panarin is out, but he has other opportunities there 5on5 too.

 

[duhmetreE]

I feel like Mika's game can be judged solely on how well he is taking the one-timer.

When he's shanking/flubbing it, shooting wide it or is just off a little his entire game, skating, passing - everything seems to be off.

When he's driving it pure, everything is in sync. His focus, speed, skillset. He gets that extra bend in his back when he carries the puck...

Obviously it's nice to have that off-side wall available on the PP when Panarin is out, but he has other opportunities there 5on5 too.

I judge his game by his skating/effort/engagement. It's night and day difference

 

[will1066]

I feel like Mika's game can be judged solely on how well he is taking the one-timer.

When he's shanking/flubbing it, shooting wide it or is just off a little his entire game, skating, passing - everything seems to be off.

When he's driving it pure, everything is in sync. His focus, speed, skillset. He gets that extra bend in his back when he carries the puck...

Obviously it's nice to have that off-side wall available on the PP when Panarin is out, but he has other opportunities there 5on5 too.

I was thinking this exactly. All players have bad streaks or slumps, but few whiff as much as he did and appear as hapless doing fundamental things like he did.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I was thinking this exactly. All players have bad streaks or slumps, but few whiff as much as he did and appear as hapless doing fundamental things like he did.

I know its weird. He was lost for a bit there. Even simple passes he was screwing up.

Then things started to even out a bit and he was getting points and playing better all around, but still not scoring.

Now its back to gang-busters Mika. He could have had another 1 or 2 last night. He can carry a team when he plays this way.

If the Rangers can add any additional true offensive threat to this lineup, with Bread being Bread and Mika going...