Guadana
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It is my way to teach.Is it your way to learn hockey? Yikes
It is my way to teach.Is it your way to learn hockey? Yikes
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.Michkov still very clearly the better prospect, it's super clear.
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.
And performed against actual men . Little different then being the big fish in the small pond .What stat's and evidence do you have to disprove what he said? Michkov has been superior at every level of their development.
100%. God knows what happens moving forwards , but as prospects from a pure hockey standpoint its pretty obviously MichkovMichkov is a better prospect than Demidov and anyone that says otherwise is a Habs homer.
Honestly I feel like it’s a comparison on the upside of a Kucherov vs a Tarasenko. I don’t understand how there’s any debate.Michkov is a better prospect than Demidov and anyone that says otherwise is a Habs homer.
I think Demidov has a higher upside than Tarasenko but even so it doesn't matter, he's a great prospect and Im happy to have him. Theres just a contingent of Habs homer that convinced themselves that Demidov is a better prospect because of "two-way play", "attitude", "character", "defensive ability", "size" and other non-existant trait that Demidov has over Michkov. I guess he does have 4 centimers.Honestly I feel like it’s a comparison on the upside of a Kucherov vs a Tarasenko. I don’t understand how there’s any debate.
Michkov has the potential to be a generational talent. Demidov has the potential to be a great 1st line, all-star level player. Still a great prospect in his own right and it’s not fair that he will be compared to Michkov moving forward just because he also happens to be Russian and the Habs passed on him the year before.
Thats a pretty fair comment for most Hab fans, but to be fair most fanbases are like that.Michkov very clearly. Doesn't mean Demidov won't be a better player. But Michkov has been more impressive every year of his development than Demidov.
Plenty of better prospects don't end up being better. I really like the Canadiens. Like to root for their young team, but their fanbase spent an entire year obsessing over not drafting Michkov just to act like Michkov isn't anything to write home about.
That's very fair, and i don't necessarily mean it to single out Hab fans. I mean it more of "As i was growing to really like what the Hab organization was doing, the fans have soured me on enjoying it as publicly as i once was."Thats a pretty fair comment for most Hab fans, but to be fair most fanbases are like that.
I think Demidov has a higher upside than Tarasenko but even so it doesn't matter, he's a great prospect and Im happy to have him. Theres just a contingent of Habs homer that convinced themselves that Demidov is a better prospect because of "two-way play", "attitude", "character", "defensive ability", "size" and other non-existant trait that Demidov has over Michkov. I guess he does have 4 centimers.
I disagree that Demidov played better.Ok, but if you watched pre-season of KHL in the beginning of this year, Demidov play better than Michkov. They play on same line.
Demidov have better hands, better hockey IQ, better passing ability and he is much more fun to watch than Michkov.
Michkov is much a oppurtunity type of guy, better goalscorer and better killer instinct for scoring.
I disagree that Demidov played better.
Michkov also played center, which I can't remember last time he has played that position, and he drove the bus on the team in preseason.
Demidov better hockey IQ? C'mon.
Michkov is a more efficient player. His creative plays pretty much always connect. He doesn't need the puck on his stick and is just as dangerous off the puck as he is on it. Demidov is not, his value is with the puck.
People need to go back and watch Michkov's junior highlights if you want to compare the flash of the two prospects.
Like...what does this even mean? Why would this be true? Unless you are citing specific examples, this sound like a generic platitude with no real meaning.Demidov IQ is very underrated lol. Michkov have great hockey IQ aswell. If you watch both closely, Demidov have higher chance to reach his full potential than Michkov.
I did and no he did not play better. Michkov got 5 minutes in one game at center and didn't play after. I know for a fact you didn't watch, dit pas dla marde.Ok, but if you watched pre-season of KHL in the beginning of this year, Demidov play better than Michkov. They play on same line.
Demidov have better hands, better hockey IQ, better passing ability and he is much more fun to watch than Michkov.
Michkov is much a oppurtunity type of guy, better goalscorer and better killer instinct for scoring.
This is the key here. Michkov's instincts and timing without the puck remind me of Crosby and Gaudreau, two guys who are just on another level in terms of anticipating where to position themselves to capitalize on chances.I disagree that Demidov played better.
Michkov also played center, which I can't remember last time he has played that position, and he drove the bus on the team in preseason.
Demidov better hockey IQ? C'mon.
Michkov is a more efficient player. His creative plays pretty much always connect. He doesn't need the puck on his stick and is just as dangerous off the puck as he is on it. Demidov is not, his value is with the puck.
People need to go back and watch Michkov's junior highlights if you want to compare the flash of the two prospects.
I think it's right there. The true mark of generational IQ isn't as much vision with the puck (though that is certainly important), but it's the off puck anticipation - the guys who just know where the puck is going to be before everyone else.
This is what made Crosby so special - it was unbelievable how many garbage goals he has scored just by his anticipation. It's also what has made Gaudreau such an effective NHL player despite his size.
Here is a great example of what I am talking about:
He makes a low to high pass across the middle of the ice to a teammate who is in motion, and you can see he instantly realizes where he needs to get to.
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In only 2 seconds, he's positioned himself in the perfect spot for a wide open rebound. Look at the urgency in his skating to get to that spot, it's clear he knows how valuable that ice is about to become.
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This is another great example, where you see him anticipate that the puck is going to get to the backdoor before the defender Comeau, and he beats him to that spot for the easy goal.
Again, you can see how he gets on his horse the moment he recognizes where the puck is going, like a full second before Comeau:
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And by the time Comeau realizes it, its too late
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In watching Michkov, I do believe he possesses this ability moreso than even Bedard.
His first goal of the season was an example of this timing and awareness of where the puck is going to go:
I tend to agree with the poster above who suggested that it might come down to which team puts their guy in a better position to succeed. They both are really impressive talents.This is the key here. Michkov's instincts and timing without the puck remind me of Crosby and Gaudreau, two guys who are just on another level in terms of anticipating where to position themselves to capitalize on chances.
Yeah, these guys all have elite offensive vision and passing skill with the puck as well, but that's honestly more common than the type of anticipation they have.
I touched on this a bit in the past in Michkov's thread: