Messier Back to Oilers - Thanks Slats

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exactly why America finds itself where it is. young folks accept defeat. Messier SIX CUPS. AV got his team into playoffs.

So we'll put your credibility into this post....

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The Rangers were/are not in the position to just give someone a chance here.

Good luck re-signing Lundqvist with that approach. AV was the safe choice which was the best course of action.
 
So many cliches dressed up as arguments here. Amazing. The guy won 6 cups as a player that means he'd be a good coach. It's amazing an adult wrote that. People get way too emotional.
 
The brainwashing of being a "winner", a "leader", and "tough" are why we have threads like this. People get brainwashed by these buzz words and stop living in reality. That's why a lot of players go too high in the draft, people are enamored with intangibles. So this spills over into coaching where being a "winner" and "leader" as a player makes you a better coach than an actual coach.
 
The brainwashing of being a "winner", a "leader", and "tough" are why we have threads like this. People get brainwashed by these buzz words and stop living in reality. That's why a lot of players go too high in the draft, people are enamored with intangibles. So this spills over into coaching where being a "winner" and "leader" as a player makes you a better coach than an actual coach.

Agreed

It would have been nice if Messier actually went through the steps to become an NHL coach, like Roy.

But he didn't, expected the position and left when he couldn't get it. Absolutely shocking that he goes to the Oilers...
 
I can sympathize with the OP.

A lot of you may be sick of Messier because MSG Network force feeds us 1994 but he is still the preeminent New York Ranger of the modern era, and is now associating with different franchise. I have no idea if Messier is qualified; it would have been cool to give him a shot. I think he earned it in the sense that he's been a warrior and a good ambassador for the organization for so long. After his interview on NHL Network about leaving the organization, I believed Messier interviewed for the Rangers head coaching position for sincere and selfless reasons, and that he genuinely felt unappreciated when they brought someone outside the family to take the reigns.
 
why does this forum exist then?

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Not sure if serious, but not for people to claim that because they're a fan longer, they already know more than the org itself.

Crease, I understand what you're saying, and back when we were looking for a coach, I tried kicking around the idea of having him first as an assistant to start smaller so he can gain some traction. But I don't think that anyone should lose sleep over this because the guy we hired has experience and coaching knowledge..
 
I can sympathize with the OP.

A lot of you may be sick of Messier because MSG Network force feeds us 1994 but he is still the preeminent New York Ranger of the modern era, and is now associating with different franchise. I have no idea if Messier is qualified; it would have been cool to give him a shot. I think he earned it in the sense that he's been a warrior and a good ambassador for the organization for so long. After his interview on NHL Network about leaving the organization, I believed Messier interviewed for the Rangers head coaching position for sincere and selfless reasons, and that he genuinely felt unappreciated when they brought someone outside the family to take the reigns.

Therein lies the problem. No one has anything on Messier because he has 0 coaching bullet points on his resume. Why can't Mess go through the ropes like all these other coaches? What makes him so special that he can skip steps and take the reigns?
 
I have literally no problem with Messier. I'm not one of the whiners who complains about 94 being talked about so much. But the point of this thread is ridiculous
 
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