Meier knee Necas

[HTFN]

Look how far apart his legs are. He’s reaching with his knee. I don’t think it’s intentional, or super dirty. Its a penalty though.

You literally can't be extended any less in that clip without setting yourself up to look like an idiot on NHL ice. He's got Necas virtually dead to rights to a clean hit and then there's a substantial, material shift in position by Necas.

You can't just suddenly not be there when you already put yourself on tracks as the guy making the hit, they're not supposed to be major surprises to you.

 

[MoneyManny]

K, well me and pro refs disagree. So you’re gonna have to call Gary, I guess.

An appeal to authority with NHL referees of all people LMAO!

 

[tarheelhockey]

You guys (Canes fans) are the ones saying it was a massive hit and pointing out the position that Necas's leg when he makes contact in. Saying it's bent in an L shape but it's a "stinger", make up your mind as a fanbase.

I don’t know how to say this more clearly:

It hurts like a mother****er to get hit across the thigh.

The hit was right above his knee which is a frightening moment as an athlete.

Yes, when this happens you are going to be in pain and worried about just how bad the injury is.

He was on the ice for 10 seconds for god’s sake. That is an extremely, extremely minimal amount of time to wiggle your leg, realize nothing is horribly wrong, and say to yourself “OK, I can stand up and get this checked out”.

All I'm saying is if Necas did get hurt badly, he wouldn't come back to the bench as quickly as he did with how injuries are looked at in the NHL.

So what is your theory here? That he went to the locker room and… did what exactly?

Anyone who is not frankly an irredeemable dumbass can see that he took 10 seconds to recover from the initial pain, got up and went to the locker room for a quick triage, realized it wasn’t major, tested it out, and returned to the game. This was all captured on video and squares with common sense.

But if he wasn't hurt that bad then his reaction baited the refs or the refs hot handily gave Timo a major for no reason.

So get pissed off at the refs for the call. Clearly they felt after video review that it met the standard for the major. That has literally zero to do with Necas’ (near-total absence of a) reaction.

Lol, there was literally a Sharks fan right below your post who said the Canes are divers and a Rags fan multiple pages back who said the same shit but I guess it's just 3 Devils fans yelling into the void.

No, the Sharks fan said the Canes get “preferential treatment from the refs” and the Rangers fan is still whining about losing to us in the playoffs. If that’s really the crew you want to align with, go right ahead.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I don’t know how to say this more clearly:

It hurts like a mother****er to get hit across the thigh.

The hit was right above his knee which is a frightening moment as an athlete.

Yes, when this happens you are going to be in pain and worried about just how bad the injury is.

He was on the ice for 10 seconds for god’s sake. That is an extremely, extremely minimal amount of time to wiggle your leg, realize nothing is horribly wrong, and say to yourself “OK, I can stand up and get this checked out”.



So what is your theory here? That he went to the locker room and… did what exactly?

Anyone who is not frankly an irredeemable dumbass can see that he took 10 seconds to recover from the initial pain, got up and went to the locker room for a quick triage, realized it wasn’t major, tested it out, and returned to the game. This was all captured on video and squares with common sense.



So get pissed off at the refs for the call. Clearly they felt after video review that it met the standard for the major. That has literally zero to do with Necas’ (near-total absence of a) reaction.



No, the Sharks fan said the Canes get “preferential treatment from the refs” and the Rangers fan is still whining about losing to us in the playoffs. If that’s really the crew you want to align with, go right ahead.

It's funny how I posted the Taylor Hall clip of an exact similar play, Hall got up within 3-5 seconds and went after the guy who kneed him and STILL missed time due to what happened to him but Necas apparently is Iron Man + wimp at the same time, just incredible stuff.

And lmao, ok man, I guess. Like I said, if that's how quick the Canes trainers know if a guy on your team is injured or not then Dundon needs to give them all pay raises because holy hell are they lapping everyone else in the league. It beats our shitty trainers in NJ who can't even detect an injury that's obvious.

I've said the refs are at fault multiple times in this thread and that it sets a bad precedent about if a player gets hurt then they can just automatically ding a team even if the play was clean or the onus wasn't on the hitter.

And sure I guess man, I'm sure a random Sharks fan has any bias towards the Devils or just naturally hates the Canes. The Rangers fans on here hate us more than you, so lmao at that too

We should just contract the Devils at this point. Mickey Mouse franchise. They nearly killed hockey once with the trap, they'll do it again if they get the chance.

Maybe Carolina should start playing it since their shitty goalies + system fails every spring shooting it 40 times into goalies's chests.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Maybe Carolina should start playing it since their shitty goalies + system fails every spring shooting it 40 times into goalies's chests.

They nearly destroyed the cap with that stupid Kovalchuk contract too, seriously, why do we allow this joke of a franchise to exist? Move them to Hamilton already.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

They nearly destroyed the cap with that stupid Kovalchuk contract too, seriously, why do we allow this joke of a franchise to exist? Move them to Hamilton already.

Good I hope they do it again somehow You've peaked my interest on a Hamliton Dougie Hamliton jersey though

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

peaked my interest

*piqued

 

[HTFN]

They nearly destroyed the cap with that stupid Kovalchuk contract too, seriously, why do we allow this joke of a franchise to exist? Move them to Hamilton already.

this isn't even good trolling, take a lap and work on your material.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

They nearly destroyed the cap with that stupid Kovalchuk contract too, seriously, why do we allow this joke of a franchise to exist? Move them to Hamilton already.

Bro you are a terrible troll. Time for you to call it a night.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

this isn't even good trolling, take a lap and work on your material.

Did you know that Kovalchuk lasted all of three seasons before he went back to Russia?

And there were devils fans insisting he'd play in North America until he was 44

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's funny how I posted the Taylor Hall clip of an exact similar play, Hall got up within 3-5 seconds and went after the guy who kneed him and STILL missed time due to what happened to him but Necas apparently is Iron Man + wimp at the same time, just incredible stuff.

So you’re suspicious that this play went differently than one from years ago that had a different outcome?

Okay.

And lmao, ok man, I guess. Like I said, if that's how quick the Canes trainers know if a guy on your team is injured or not then Dundon needs to give them all pay raises because holy hell are they lapping everyone else in the league. It beats our shitty trainers in NJ who can't even detect an injury that's obvious.

There was absolutely every reason to think Necas could have seriously ****ed something up there. It took all of a minute to figure out he had been hit in the muscle and had full mobility.

At that point, what are you expecting the trainer to do? Run an MRI on a guy who isn’t seriously hurt? Airlift him to the hospital? Send him in for surgery?

You’re mad because he wasn’t injured and it frankly makes no sense at all.

I've said the refs are at fault multiple times in this thread and that it sets a bad precedent about if a player gets hurt then they can just automatically ding a team even if the play was clean or the onus wasn't on the hitter.

Except that they sent this to video review.

AGAIN you’re making so many factually incorrect claims here that it’s just insane. No, they didn’t “automatically ding” anyone. They made a call on the ice, reviewed it, and the call was upheld.

Get mad at the refs if you must. Get mad at the rulebook if you must. But at least have your facts straight and stop being mad about totally nonsensical conspiracy crap.

And sure I guess man, I'm sure a random Sharks fan has any bias towards the Devils or just naturally hates the Canes. The Rangers fans on here hate us more than you, so lmao at that too

Canes came back to beat the Sharks two weeks ago, and they’ve played the Rangers in 3 of the last 5 playoffs. But hey, facts don’t have much of a role in this argument so…

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

So you’re suspicious that this play went differently than one from years ago that had a different outcome?

Okay.



There was absolutely every reason to think Necas could have seriously ****ed something up there. It took all of a minute to figure out he had been hit in the muscle and had full mobility.

At that point, what are you expecting the trainer to do? Run an MRI on a guy who isn’t seriously hurt? Airlift him to the hospital? Send him in for surgery?

You’re mad because he wasn’t injured and it frankly makes no sense at all.



Except that they sent this to video review.

AGAIN you’re making so many factually incorrect claims here that it’s just insane. No, they didn’t “automatically ding” anyone. They made a call on the ice, reviewed it, and the call was upheld.

Get mad at the refs if you must. Get mad at the rulebook if you must. But at least have your facts straight and stop being mad about totally nonsensical conspiracy crap.



Canes came back to beat the Sharks two weeks ago, and they’ve played the Rangers in 3 of the last 5 playoffs. But hey, facts don’t have much of a role in this argument so…

Maybe you're right and I'm confused to how a guy that was on my team had a completely different reaction + missed games after on a similar type of hit. I don't even think the Hall knee even got penalized if I remember correctly. That's on the league and not the Canes. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to say Necas was truly hurt and then he comes back that quickly. Stingers happen but you can't just in the same breath as your fanbase has been saying that Necas had something worse happen to him. And again I don't see why a Sharks fan would care, you guys are the two most non-sensical duo to have a random rivalry in the league and I don't think Sharks fans give a shit if they lost games lmao, they probably want Hagens.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Maybe you're right and I'm confused to how a guy that was on my team had a completely different reaction + missed games after on a similar type of hit. I don't even think the Hall knee even got penalized if I remember correctly. That's on the league and not the Canes. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to say Necas was truly hurt and then he comes back that quickly. Stingers happen but you can't just in the same breath as your fanbase has been saying that Necas had something worse happen to him.

It’s clear that he wasn’t “truly hurt” in the sense of being injured. It’s also clear that he was “truly hurt” in the sense of having the ever loving hell knocked out of his leg causing it to whip around gruesomely. For a brief moment, those things look and feel more or less the same. You don’t know how serious it is till the pain of impact passes and you find out whether you’re swelling in the joint, or feeling the throb of a broken bone, or unable to move like normal. If it passes quickly and everything moves right, there’s not a lot else to be done but walk it off and maybe take an Advil.

Looking at an old article, Hall had a deep contusion from that hit. My guess is Necas has a gnarly contusion and we see it on his Insta later, but nothing so deep as to stop him from moving normally.

And again I don't see why a Sharks fan would care, you guys are the two most non-sensical duo to have a random rivalry in the league and I don't think Sharks fans give a shit if they lost games lmao, they probably want Hagens

Honestly, I dunno other than the game the other day where someone may have done something to piss him off. Otherwise I don’t know why a Sharks fan would even have an opinion on the Canes. They’ve probably never played a really meaningful game against each other.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Keefe on the play...

"If you take a big hit laying down on the ice has it's benefits"

Necas is also a Czech and watches soccer and knows exactly what he was doing. Got a few bridges around here for sale if you don't believe he oversold it.

Europeans are soft because of watching association football is certainly a take in the 2024th year of our Lord

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Nah, I think he took a nasty hit to his knee and it probably f***ing hurt. I don't think you need to have a medical degree to look at that play and say knees probably shouldn't bend like that. The immediate reaction to such a hit would be to stay down and not put any weight on it, because your leg feels f***ing shattered at that point.

And what if I do and say they shouldn't bend like that ?

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Lost what little respect I had for that organization after tonight - and frankly for Rod too. Clearly it's a cultural thing he's instilled, with multiple players flopping for calls tonight.

Sad. Ruins the game, makes refs look stupid.

You never had any in the first place, don't BS your way out.

 

[Better Call Sal]

You literally can't be extended any less in that clip without setting yourself up to look like an idiot on NHL ice. He's got Necas virtually dead to rights to a clean hit and then there's a substantial, material shift in position by Necas.

You can't just suddenly not be there when you already put yourself on tracks as the guy making the hit, they're not supposed to be major surprises to you.

This is the correct take, and what makes me the angriest about the whole thing. Not only that, they didn’t call a thing at the time and let us possess the puck for another 10-15 seconds. Noesen even got a shot on goal, I wonder what would have happened had he scored.

I wish people would stop freeze framing hits to try and have the “Gotcha!” moment of what took place. The game is much too fast to think slowing the replay down really tells the entire story on every hit. Sometimes, it can make it clear as day, but here it distorts what really happened. As you mentioned, Timo had Necas lined up for a legal hit. Necas tried to avoid it at the last second, and that’s what led to the knee being the primary contact point.

If you want to call a minor as a result, fine, I can live with that. A major? When nothing was called at the time of the hit? I cant wrap my head around that at all. And that’s what the majority of the other fans are getting riled up about with a penalty being called after seeing Necas on the ice for a prolonged period of time. I’m not accusing him of faking it, I’m sure he was in pain, but the refs ultimately took the end result of the play and reversed time to call a major that I don’t think was deserved.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

He was down for literally 10 seconds — go back and time it.

I did go back and time it and he was down for 22 seconds.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Haula got penalized for that and I'd argue that was more of a major penalty than what Timo did but thanks for making my point. But good acting on Orlov jumping from the bench after he was on the ice for a minute too

He didn't even get on the bench. He went to wipe the blood on his face.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

As a Canes fan, this was pretty clearly unintentional and also pretty clearly something that would cause anyone to hold their knee in terror of having just blown it out. The need to argue over any of this is classic internet sports fan behavior.

Yeah but I saw a similar hit one time and that time the guy got up quicker and the refs decided not to call a major, so therefore this guy is a faker.

So obvious duh

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

That's dirty af. Bryan Marchment level dirty.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Am I seeing things or Meier did NOT stick out his leg/knee?

 

[BHD]

Shades of Ribeiro from Necas.

 

[BHD]

Am I seeing things or Meier did NOT stick out his leg/knee?

Yes, but... Necas REALLY embellished it.

 

[Goptor]

The issue at hand is that the call on the ice was no penalty. They played along for a bit until there was a turnover and the refs called the play dead to asses the player down on the ice.

If it was called a penalty on the ice, then you have a bunch of fans of old-time hockey bemoaning the current state where you can't even hit people anymore.
If it was not called and play continued, there would be Canes fans complaining about refs needing new prescriptions for their contacts.
Both of those situations happen ALL THE TIME in this league.

The problem is that Necas staying on the ice for so long and then the trainers whisking him quickly away triggered a review of the play due to injury. The review was made because he was injured. The penalty was assessed because there was an injury. People are pissed because there clearly wasn't an injury.