ponytrekker
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People are delusional comparing these 2. One is playing rookie mode. The other all Pro.
Confirmed with Link: McDonagh + Miller to Tampa Bay for Namestnikov + Howden + Hajek + 2018 1st + conditional 2019 1st
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ponytrekker
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mrmovies779
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Miller is slightly better...when he shows up and isnt giving the opponents extended shifts in our zone with lazy careless turnovers.
Ghost of jas
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Point and Sergachev were never going to be a part of the deal, just as Marner and Nylander weren’t. Anybody who thought that was being delusional. When people here discussed a McDonagh deal seriously, the realistic return was Foote/Howden or Raddysh/this year’s 1st/a conditional 2nd that could become a 1st. Lol and behold, that’s pretty much the return. Shocking.
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After having a night to sleep on it, the value the Rangers got for these 2 is just fine. For me at least, it's a little painful losing these guys(esp McD), and it would have done much more to ease the pain if we had really blown it out of the park (kinda like we did for Nash). Instead, we just got fair value, and if you look at the last 2 weeks on a high level, Gorton has fast tracked this rebuild in a way that I'm not sure I have ever seen. All in all, rebuilds hurt, this one is no different. Looking forward to the draft.
Our top pick should be boqvist if we move to 4. If we stay around 7 it should be Bouchard
I’ll take wings with my late firsts and seconds.
Wingers are the easiest guys to get
I’ll take wings with my late firsts and seconds.
Wingers are the easiest guys to get
Inferno
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Listening to the hockey news podcast...2 of the 3 guys call the rangers winners...one of them says they didn't get enough.
All 3 agreed Tampa were winners.
One guys said hajek was just behind dahlin in terms of defenseman at the wjc
All 3 agreed Tampa were winners.
One guys said hajek was just behind dahlin in terms of defenseman at the wjc
Beacon
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If he's a 4C, he busted. He doesn't have a huge ceiling, but has an excellent floor. The reasonable projection right now is a good 3C with a 2C possible upside. Same as Lias. I think the Rangers are hoping one becomes a quality 2C, the other a top-shelf 3C. Nieves at 4C and hope against hope that Chytil turns into a 1C. Would be beautiful if it worked out that way.
I'd rank Howden similar to Lias, maybe a little behind, but in the same general tier.
GregSirico
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I jinx players.
What’s a realistic expectation of what it would cost to sign Namestnikov to a 2 year deal?
4 year deal?
6 year deal?
He makes $2.8 mill now. Curious what you guys think
4 year deal?
6 year deal?
He makes $2.8 mill now. Curious what you guys think
Inferno
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Literally none of this is what I said.
When you have a billion assets and give up 3 or 4 really good ones...it's nothing when you have 10 more right behind them.
this is the problem with the roster building thread. we repeat these fantasy trades that were never possible so many times that we think they are real. we didn't turn down better guys, just like we didn't decided to not get a 1st for talbot. this was the best offer on the table. What else was he supposed to do? He tried to play chicken to see if yzerman would blink and waited till the very last minute when his options became take the offer or walk away and try again at the draft? sergachev was never an option.
and what makes you think that we'd do better than this at the draft? and what makes you think that gorton had spoken to other teams to get a feel for what those offers would be?
and what makes you think that we'd do better than this at the draft? and what makes you think that gorton had spoken to other teams to get a feel for what those offers would be?
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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GregSirico
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If Lias and Howden become our 2/3C's that's not bad. We still have Chytil (could be moved to wing?) and Zibby on the roster. I kind of like the young depth we have, sure, nobody is Crosby or Tavares, but who is?
JayMan82
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I was trying to find out what his walk year was (does he have 1 or 2 more RFA years). On the surface, if we can get a 4ish on a 5 or 6 year deal, that would be great. I definitely think he was gonna make less than Miller due to his previous deals and more recent production turn compared to Miller (he's also played less career games).
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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I think the first question is: do they want to keep him?
JayMan82
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I don't see this at all. Lias is a Center all the way, considering he plays a complete 200 foot game.
Ghost of jas
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I would argue that both prospects the Rangers got in the McDonagh deal were better than what they got from Boston.
Beacon
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I agree. I hope Tampa wins the Cup so we get 2 first rounders. I hope Names will turn things around in NYC because he likes Brighton Beach more than Safety Harbor. I hope Howden is able to transition to the pros well. Would make things much easier.
P.S. I have no hate for former Rangers in Tampa. McDonagh, Girardi, Cally worked extraordinarily hard in NYC. They are good people.
JayMan82
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Judging by Gorton's quotes after the deal, they definitely want to keep him. We have 2 pending assets in Shestyorkin and Rykov where it would be beneficial to have him in the mix. His analytics show that the kid is money in the transition game (defense to offense) even before his offensive outburst this year and plays a solid all around game. Why not keep him?
