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Confirmed with Link: McDonagh + Miller to Tampa Bay for Namestnikov + Howden + Hajek + 2018 1st + conditional 2019 1st

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The Crypto Guy said:
WOW, very interesting that it seems like HAJEK was the main player that the Ranger's were targeting. They must be extremely high on him....


https://nypost.com/2018/02/26/rangers-went-all-in-on-risky-rebuild-thats-only-ticket-to-glory/
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Tampa's scouts wanted him for a reason when they drafted him. Tampa has some of the best WHL scouts in the league.

So our scouts are clearly on to something here. Hopefully it's something good haha

WeNeverGetaGoodCoach said:
then why did we just make so many trades for defensemen prospects?
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Because you build a team around defensemen and centers. Which is exactly what Gorton is doing.

We have arguably the best under 25 center depth in the league. After this draft, I recon we'll have some of the best defensive prospect depth in the league
 
I Eat Crow said:
You should always go BPA in the high rounds.

The Rangers will be in a position to get a very good defenseman at the top of the first round, depending on where in the lottery their pick is drawn. If they keep slipping in the standings, both Boqvist or Hughes would transform this defense.
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If it is a big Chris Pronger type go for it, if it is Del Zotto type then trade down or up.
 
Greg02 said:
I honestly believe Dolan is a great hockey owner. We've heard many times from many sources how the Rangers are a top notch organization in terms of how they treat their players. Dolan went and hired the most respected GM in the sport at the time in Glen Sather, and gave him full control of the organization. He hung with Sather when everyone called for his head, exhibiting patience. He's been willing to eat buyouts and send expensive players to the minors. He's letting us go through a rebuild rather than forcing a push to make the playoffs when we would get bounced in the first round. Yes, he's an awful basketball owner, but what else do you want out of Dolan for the Rangers?
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Totally agree. He probably just doesn’t care enough to interfere. But, whatever, it’s still a top notch organization. Could you imagine rooting for the Senators or Coyotes? Or even the Leafs, who have all the money in the world but are just indecisive or timid. They have like fifty GMs. Just my guess, but either they’re all on the same page and afraid to make a move. Or they just don’t have a clear leader.
Gotta admire the Lightening for ante’ing up and swinging for the fences. They could have easily just gone the safe route like the Leafs.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
We aren't being serious about looking to get Karlsson right? All he will do is at best make us a bubble team next season and slow the rebuild. One more terrible season, another good pick in the 19 draft and we will be set for multiple cups in 2023-26. :nod:
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Odd that you think a good pick in the 19 draft is leading us to multiple Cups but not Erik Karlsson.

That would give us Chytil, Andersson, Hayes, Spooner, Zibanejad, and Howden at center with Erik Karlsson as our #1 D.

The rebuild isn't slowed, the rebuild is over.
 
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WeNeverGetaGoodCoach said:
If it is a big Chris Pronger type go for it, if it is Del Zotto type then trade down or up.
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It's not fair to seek a "Pronger type" of defenseman, he was a one of a kind player.

Same way Dahlin is going to be a one of a kind player. Crosby a one of a kind, Ovechkin a one of a kind, etc. There are no comparisons for those guys. They're their own player. That's the best compliment I can offer a player that's ever played the game.

Hughes reminds me of a Kimmo Timmonen/Brian Rafalski hybrid.
Boqvist reminds me of a Pietrangelo type.

You take either if they're available at 6, where we would currently be picking based on the standings. They definitely both have top pairing upside. You take that player at 6 if they're available. That's not to say that a player like Tkachuk or Wahlstrom doesn't have top line potential, but I just like the two defensemen mentioned above to have better careers than the two forwards I just listed.
 
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WeNeverGetaGoodCoach said:
then why did we just make so many trades for defensemen prospects?
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I think these kids are on all kinds of different timetables. So I don't think it's a matter of having too few spots for too many players.

Ultimately, it's easier to trade guys who develop than those who don't. It's easier to make a deal when you feel you have surplus in an area and get value in return, than it is to try and make deal when that talent is lacking.

The Rangers have a lot of guys on defense who project as second pairing types. That's not a bad thing, but there's definitely not a stud young defenseman in the system right now.

For as far as the team's depth has come, there's still a lot of holes. They still need higher end defensive prospects. They still need wingers. That's going to be an ongoing process. If nothing else, it's going to be a goal.

I think there are some centers who could convert to wings, so IMO, that gives defense a slight preference. But it depends on who is available where in the draft.

This process is going to take a while.
 
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The Crypto Guy said:
We aren't being serious about looking to get Karlsson right? All he will do is at best make us a bubble team next season and slow the rebuild. One more terrible season, another good pick in the 19 draft and we will be set for multiple cups in 2023-26. :nod:
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You really think so? A lot of people have this Penguins idea in their head. Suck real bad for 3-4 years in a row--draft a couple generational players and we'll be all set. It didn't work for the Oilers but even so when the NHL started it's draft lottery and then turned it into 3 lotteries that kind of kills that. You can be the worst team year after year and you can't count on so many things---like some years are going to be worse drafts than others and some years you might be the worst team but drafting 4th when there are only two or three players worth killing yourself over.

The Rangers are an original 6 team--ranked the most valuable NHL franchise by Forbes magazine. Whether the Rangers get back to the playoffs next year or the year after is one thing but they owe it to their fans to be competitive and to try. If they're not going to try I'm not going to f***ing watch them. I can put up with losing. I'm not going to put up with lacklustre effort on the ice or management that doesn't give a crap about the product they're trying to sell us.

If Karlsson is available and healthy he is the best D in the league. So of course I would try to sign him because pro-active is always better than inactive.
 
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Go Away Staal said:
My statement stands.

My read on the situation is that Tavares is looking for reasons to stay. If he doesn't find any, I can't see him taking a dump on the Islanders by moving across town into a team that is even further away from competing.

Dahlin alone won't change that, though feel free to bump this if he wins the ROY and Norris next year.
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Yeah. My guess is Tavares stays with the Isles. And I think he should. They’re a good team and he’s the man there.
 
Comments from my hockey friends...Hajek just keeps getting better and better, has a chance to be a top pair guy, He was traded to Regina which is hosting the Memorial Cup this year...Howden a real nice player, not likely a top liner but will definitely play in the middle six, good at a lot of things not great at anything...don’t sleep on Lindgren, he isn’t very flashy but he is a rock on defense, reminds me a little of Michael Sauer (sigh)...2018 Draft is average/slightly above average so Rangers should have good players to pick from at the back end of the first round.
 
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If Lindgren is actually a rock on defense, that would be great.

If he's a rock on defense the way Girardi and Staal we rocks on defense, I'm gonna have a sad time.
 
Chytil, Andersson, Howden down the middle for 10 years is an interesting prospect, for sure. Made even more intriguing considering Zibanejad and Hayes are both still quite young from a relative standpoint.

I wonder if NYR's plan is to have a 'core' quite literally built around good centers and defense, with mercenaries/what you can get, on the wing positions.
 
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Hajek is the swing for the fences some people don't think the Rangers take enough of.

He's potentially the best prospect we get at the deadline and the one with the highest odds of not sticking in the NHL.

And I say the former knowing that everyone here knows how highly I think of Howden.
 
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Fitzy Duke of NY said:
Chytil, Andersson, Howden down the middle for 10 years is an interesting prospect, for sure. Made even more intriguing considering Zibanejad and Hayes are both still quite young from a relative standpoint.

I wonder if NYR's plan is to have a 'core' quite literally built around good centers and defense, with mercenaries/what you can get, on the wing positions.
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Chicago/LA/Pittsburgh were never particularly great at wing, outside of at least one bonafide first liner. We have that. (Kreider)
 
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